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    Im going to love him with Nicodem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas Cordell View Post
    With Kirai, use Lost Love to give him spirit. Any attack of less than 7 damage will only cause 1 wound.
    Same with Dead Rider and a Grave Spirit. (Why would you ever NOT have Grave Spirit with him)
    But with Dead Rider, you can be anywhere on the board you want to be very fast.

    Also, magic weapons and spells do just fine against spirits.

    His automatic is a beautiful thing though. And that defensive trigger stuff could be awesome.

    I'd love some sort of regen though...
    Last edited by Gruesome; 08-10-2012 at 10:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruesome View Post
    Same with Dead Rider and a Grave Spirit. (Why would you ever NOT have Grave Spirit with him)
    But with Dead Rider, you can be anywhere on the board you want to be very fast.

    Also, magic weapons and spells do just fine against spirits.

    His automatic is a beautiful thing though. And that defensive trigger stuff could be awesome.

    I'd love some sort of regen though...
    True, though Dead Rider has a bigger chance to get red jokered and vs models that ignore armour, object is pretty huge too. But yeah, both are hard as nails.

    It's more about what you want, mobility or hardiness. Dead Rider after all tends to be in the 7-5 wound area to be at it's best while Izamu can be at full all the time and heal himself and not worry. He also hits harder thanks to the + on his weapon though dead rider can plain hit more between flurry and either of his extra action configs. Rider also fiddles more with model placement while Izamu is more about staying put and making the guy that has to stab him sweat (riposte is a very mean trigger, specially on a model with a + on his weapon, that means that any attack you stop is going in with an even flip and his ability to make enemy triggers not work can cause headaches).

    I'm very happy, he is an awesome piece that does not overshadow the rider, just a different set of tools depending on what you are looking for, though him actually being a pure undead and dropping 3 corpses will probably seal it for a few resser players.
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    I look forward to (re-)killing him with miners :P
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    Forgot about the healing on Severe, good point. And with the damage it should be something even attainable.

    Definitely getting him regardless, not going to overly concern myself with "theory" on him yet until hit hits the table.

    I really like that the riposte trigger, if cheated, is not only riposte, but shuts down onslaught. How is THAT for turning the tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clement View Post
    With anyone else, slap the grave spirit on him and any attack of less then 6 damage only causes one wound, unless my rules lawyering is way off base.

    Oblect 2 and Armor 2 are separate abilities, so should stack no?
    While you are correct, Armor +2 stacks just fine with Armor +2. So it would work either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruesome View Post
    Same with Dead Rider and a Grave Spirit. (Why would you ever NOT have Grave Spirit with him)
    But with Dead Rider, you can be anywhere on the board you want to be very fast.
    With Kirai and Izamu as a spirit, you could have him anywhere on the board with no problems. Just teleport him over to the enemy and watch him wreck face after they've activated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruesome View Post
    Same with Dead Rider and a Grave Spirit. (Why would you ever NOT have Grave Spirit with him)
    But with Dead Rider, you can be anywhere on the board you want to be very fast.

    Also, magic weapons and spells do just fine against spirits.

    His automatic is a beautiful thing though. And that defensive trigger stuff could be awesome.

    I'd love some sort of regen though...
    If you have the Grave Spirit, you can't have Lost Love, so you can't make him a spirit (in scraps). But yeah, magical damage will still hurt.
    "The ability to get up after a defeat is far more admirable than the ability to never lose."

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    Actually you can have both, it just requires you bring henchman, either von schill or Molly. Not saying it is the best idea, but it is very possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetid Strumpet View Post
    Actually you can have both, it just requires you bring henchman, either von schill or Molly. Not saying it is the best idea, but it is very possible.
    Yes... And team tournament, which is where I originally intended to run it... Before I would up not being in the team tournament.

    The amount of models that hit the table with Kirai+Nicodem and 4 Canine Remains was pretty darn awesome...
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