Whats best against LCB ?

[Iamwyrd]

The only thing I have a problem with when facing lcb with kirai is his lack of living or spirit models. So im relying on my own models for my seshin. But even then into the spirit world is a huge leap to keep her away from lcb. Then ikiryo can move her as well if set up right, plus twin shikome preying on him is nice. There have been times where my two shikome drop both the dreamer and lcb in a round(as long as lcb was by himself when the dreamer popped out). Shikome are the bees knees imo.

[Joel]

All of which only matters if I (as the dreamer player), foolishly took assassinate or am playing contain power (which, since kirai herself doesn't do the killing isn't that big a deal).

I have only faced kirai once when using dreamer. It was round 4 and I had few scheme choices left. It was shared slaughter and I had kill protege (on Datsu be) and kidnap on seshin.

This was pre-errata on shikome, so summoned ones could call prey - which he did on the dreamer - and on turn one had the shikome in combat with the little man trying to tear his face off. Dreamer survived by burning stones, became chompy and never turned back - and with him and lelus I tore through all his gaki, plenty of seshin, the shikome and iroku with chompy tearing apart the (ready for another spelling fail?) jacumba thingy with the +4 damage he gets from the flay and prey on the weak.

Won 6-0

Basically, kiarai is very difficult to kill, but her crew isn't. And do you need to kill her anyway?

[Huang Da Wei]

Quick question, how well versed with lcb is the person your gonna play against?

this I dont know, will find out in a few hours

[Sandwich]

Isn't there sort of difference between simple "melee hammers" and Chompy Slingshot? Its not as much a matter of the melee bit as it is the fact that he is hella-fast melee and in her face in one turn from very far away?

I am not as familiar with post-bury errata chompy, but he can still motor, yes? Is she really that much faster than him?

Chompy is very fast, yes, but he's entirely unable to lock Kirai down.
Where the Dreamer can move something around 21-22" per turn, Kirai can just manipulate her entire crew to bear down onto him.

Not to mention the massive survivability that the Lost Love brings, and how much turning her into a Spirit augments her untouchability.

The only thing I have a problem with when facing lcb with kirai is his lack of living or spirit models. So im relying on my own models for my seshin. But even then into the spirit world is a huge leap to keep her away from lcb. Then ikiryo can move her as well if set up right, plus twin shikome preying on him is nice. There have been times where my two shikome drop both the dreamer and lcb in a round(as long as lcb was by himself when the dreamer popped out). Shikome are the bees knees imo.

Even without automatically gaining Prey when summoned with Kirai, they're still murdermachines.

Not to mention that Prey on the Dreamer negates his targeting shenanigans.

Also, Gaki can destroy LCB fairly quickly with relatively minor placement planning.

2gud

[Gruesome]

Well... its interesting to me that we have Chompy players that say they have never lost to Kirai and Kirai players saying them have never lost to Chompy.

Gencon? Yes please.