Collodi Vs C. Hoffman 25 stones

[LordFett]

I'm getting ready to face C. Hoffman with Collodi, my current thought for my crew is:

Neverborn Crew - 25 - Scrap

Collodi -- 4 Pool

• Carrion Effigy [4ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Stitched Together [5ss]
• Stitched Together [5ss]
• Wicked Doll [3ss]
• Wicked Doll [3ss]

I was thinking about dropping the Wicked Dolls for the Mysterious Effigy to steal Hoffman's Open Conduit, but thinking about it, it doesn't effect constructs does it? So Machine Puppet would be the only thing I'd have to really worry.

[Fetid Strumpet]

Question, why are you bringing the Carrion Effigy? There won't be many corpse counters dropping against Hoffman, and if you are hoping to strip I2I from the constructs for your Stitched, remember it's a short range to do so and therefore carrion will most likely get slapped down before you can fully exploit it. Is there a trick you are thinking about that's just not apparent?

I think, purely from a mechanical advantage point of view you might be better off using the Brutal or Arcane Effigy, but let me know if you find success with the Carrion, I could be wrong about him.

[bashamer]

Carrion effigy has an aura of "no ignore / immune" that combined with a bunch of attacks that can't be cheated makes a peace bringer a sad model.

[*Jack*]

I've used collodi a lot and havent got much mileage out of wicked dolls :/ I'd say drop them for a third stitched, in my opinion. Then again, a lot of the guild constructs are I2I, so I'd be tempted to take pandora as my leader instead of collodi, but I digress :P

[LordFett]

I am bringing the Carrion to strip the Immune to Influence for my Stitched.

I've considered Pandora, but we're playing a campaign and the challenge was to play a new master, I picked Collodi. I am unsure how bringing Pandora to the mix would sit with everyone else. We missed our weekly meet where I was going to ask about this.

I like bringing the Wicked dolls because most of my opponents opt for high cost models and when I swarm they get flustered and I win. I would much rather have 3-5 Wicked Dolls though, but the stones for this week's game do not allow it.

If I were to drop the Carrion I'd also drop a Stitched and just keep them around for the Fog. I could then take the Brutal and Arcane, both of which I've considered.

[mpangelu]

If they would allow proxy till release, a Widow Weaver will make her points in 3 wicked dolls... As it is, I dont know if your strategy will be the best for what your thinking. If the carrion goes by, your primary (seemingly) reason for bringing the ST's will be dead. And while you will be able to easily out initiative Hoffman, if used right, he can get just as much movement as collodi. I'd personally drop the carrion and go for a different route, but that is my opinion. Collodi in general is a awsome master.

Maybe drop the carrion and stitched for 3 wicked dolls or Widow Weaver.

Don't forget also that Collodi can really do a number on an all construct crew with his Dismantle spell.

[bashamer]

use stitched & arcane effigy to milk his hand, then run the carrion in and Dismantle C. Hoffman the not quite perfect machine.

[LordFett]

My list ended up being:

Neverborn Crew - 25 - Scrap

Collodi -- 3 Pool

• Arcane Effigy [4ss]
• Brutal Effigy [4ss]
• Hodgepodge Effigy [4ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Marionette [2ss]
• Mysterious Effigy [4ss]
• Stitched Together [5ss]

We had Shared Turf War, my schemes were Bodyguard and Breakthrough.

Opponent's list was:

Guild Crew - 25 - Scrap

C. Hoffman -- 4 Pool

• Guild Austringer [5ss]
• Peacekeeper [9ss]
• Ryle, Guild Pawn [8ss]
• Watcher [3ss]

He took assassinate and kill protege.

We had corner deployment and I slowly started moving along the bottom edge of the table while he ran through the middle. On turn 3 he took out Stitched with Ryle before I got up Creepy Fog. I was hoping he'd only be able to do enough to nearly kill him so I could use Hodgepodge or Brutal to wax him denying him the points for Kill Protege.

I used the Marionettes to move Collodi into his deployment zone by the end of turn 3. He decided it wasn't worth it to chase him and instead went after the Effigies I left near my deployment zone. I didn't manage to kill any of his models, but he took out all of my Effigies. I hadn't fully read the rules on Object and didn't realize they weren't living, had I known that I would've charged Ryle at one point with the Brutal, instead I opted to shoot him.

We ended with 8 me vs 6 him. I had almost activated the Stitched right after Collodi before he used Ryle to kill the Stitched to put up Creepy Fog, wish I had now.

When I ran Collodi across the table I was 1/8" from being able to take a shot at the Peacekeeper with dismantle.

[mpangelu]

Sounds intense! Grats on the win!

[LordFett]

Today I'm playing Hamelin vs Collodi 30 points. This is going to be interesting. I am thinking about the Weaver Widow. Hopefully I will get a strategy I don't really have to worry about dealing with Hammy too much, like I did with Hoffman.