My First Somer Tournament

[magicpockets]

Good shout re the "discard two cards" had completely missed that

Right now I don't know enough about pigs to comment on them other than they seem very powerful. And to me aSomer seems to suit a gunline more than pigs, but like I say I'm not that sophisticated with him yet so reserve judgement!

[Joel]

I am also attending the event, I hope to see the effects of the flying pigs firsthand

[Dumb Luck]

ASomer is just god anyway. The Skeeters can still drag him around and he hits reasonably hard.

Tried the Pult with a Boomerang list today. Spent ages juicing up a Piglet with Truffles and Stick Him In The Ass. Loaded him up and ... he died. Would have been easier to Skeeter the poor thing up. Not a fan of it with Pigs. Stick me in the Omenbringer camp on that one.

I'm looking forward to seeing people use the Pigs at the ETC. I'm still struggling to work out when it would be more useful a list over the gunline ...

[CunningStunt]

I think the idea is more to use the pigs as ammo for the pult's weapon Dom.

[Dumb Luck]

Hm. Of course. So used to using it as aerial support, completely forgot it had a weapon.

Cb4 though ...

[Omenbringer]

I think they're expecting less. Most people dont use the 'pult gunline.

Definately less, it is difficult enough feeding one when actually shooting the thing.

2. Sooey! is actually quite good but needs a lot of thinking (or practice to get it second nature)
3. Don't start with one Gremlin, it's way too slow for Somer lol
4. Piglets just running amok on your opponents half of the board are hilarious

Also, question to check I didn't cheat, when your Piglets are stampeding, can you still us eReckless for an extra pig charge?

Sooey! is such a great spell, it is successful at what it does whether the casting flip is made or not (the only spell I can think of that does this).

One Gremlin is not ideal but is doable (and frees up a few more SS for piglets or support). I generally like 3 of them to build the gunline up and transition from Pig Boomerang tactic around turn 4. Turn 4 and on is where they do the heavy lifting for me (while the surviving pigs continue to press the attack or build the Pig Ladders).

Piglets running amock is great but they are definately more effective when they are somewhat controlled/ guided.

Yes you can still use Reckless when the pigs are Stampeding (though you dont have to). The only real limitation when Stampeding is that they cant use their Eat Anything ability with it (which sucks!!!).

When running the Pig Boomerang, I find I spent so much effort trying to get more Piglets or heal up Gremlins to manifest I would generally rather take the extra Piglets in my list to begin with and pop Avatar ASAP.

Building up a gunline seems (to me anyway, I'm not the greatest Pig player) to take away from valuable Pig flying around time. The gunline is more likely to shoot itself than your targets. But I tend to use the Pig list as a very avoidance heavy/hit and run type of list. I leave the gunline spawning tricks for an Ophelia centric list as she handles it much better.

The Pig Boomerang or Pig Heavy lists are definately good on their own but suffers from a distinct lack of significant models. The Bayou Gremlins are the cheapest significant models in the game (so can be included easily without limiting the effectiveness of the list) and the transition really allows you to focus on whittling down your opponent with the pigs in the early stages of the game (and distracting them from their strats/ schemes) then run the Bayou's around the board (with pig ladders if you have them) completing objectives with little opposition. Some'r's summoning is fairly slow (even with healing help) unless you have the cards so the transition allows you more time to really get it going.

Right now I don't know enough about pigs to comment on them other than they seem very powerful. And to me aSomer seems to suit a gunline more than pigs, but like I say I'm not that sophisticated with him yet so reserve judgement!

ASome'r is good with a gunline but amazing with the Pig Boomerang. All the models that really make the Boomerang effective also help Some'r after he manifests. Their inclusion from the start is just efficient (since you are going to want Skeeters and a Hog Whisperer to boost ASome'r anyway).

The Skeeters can still drag him around and he hits reasonably hard.

Tried the Pult with a Boomerang list today. Spent ages juicing up a Piglet with Truffles and Stick Him In The Ass. Loaded him up and ... he died. Would have been easier to Skeeter the poor thing up. Not a fan of it with Pigs. Stick me in the Omenbringer camp on that one.

I'm looking forward to seeing people use the Pigs at the ETC. I'm still struggling to work out when it would be more useful a list over the gunline ...

Dont forget that the Hog Whisperer can also help ASome'r.

The Pigapult is to difficult to consistantly feed with pig ammo for more than a turn or two and of course their are plenty of ways to mitigate it's effectiveness (High Df, Armor, Object, Freikorps and the damn Cult of December Armors, or you can just spread things out). Additionally if you are Sacing those pigs for ammo the thing is really more like a 10 SS model (4 for the Launcher and at least 6 for the two piglets/ stuffed Pigs).

I like the Gunline but Some'r just isn't as good at running it as Ophelia (yes he can do it but she is so much better at it). The Pig Boomerang (especially if you plan for the transition to Alpha Stank, Gunline, Pig Ladder objective grabbing or the Bacon Bombing Run) is just so much more versatile in how it can be run.

Just my thoughts of course (but I am of course heavily biased toward pig lists).

[magicpockets]

Hm. Of course. So used to using it as aerial support, completely forgot it had a weapon.

Cb4 though ...

Cb4 shouldn't be a problem, there's two easy ways to mitigate that. Just watch it against Freikorps and Raspy crews as Omenbringer says.

[Dumb Luck]

This is where ASomer gets handy again. If you have a few Sooey's left, you can let the Pigs go nuts and then drag them back near ASomer.

[magicpockets]

Let pigs go out and attack stuff, then Sooey! them back to fire the pigapults - now there's an idea

[Csonti]

So how did it go?