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06-11-2012, 11:24 PM #1
Pandora Help Rules and Clarification
Ok so i am starting malifaux and i love to use Pandora. my problem is my crew and some things i have encountered along the way. since im noob when i think im doing something awesome, im actually getting it wrong. so here are my points (1) Jack daw - played against him and realized i have no magic damage. i thought that damage caused by Emotional Trauma would damage him (causing him to discard a control card for each wound i would cause including sorrows) but apparently this is not considered magic therefore cannot hurt him? is this all correct or was i cheated from damage? (2) The Box Opens - "models within 12" of this model lose any immunities to Wp Duels" I have Coppelius in my crew, with this ability does that mean while within 12" of Pandora models striking or activating near Coppelius have to make the Wp duel caused by terrifying even if they are immune, are a construct/undead or have terrifying themselves as in the rule book it states that all morale duels are Wp duels but not all Wp duels are Morale duels unless stated. ( or another example is A mature nephlim charging jack daw while both within 12" does the nephlim need to make the terrifying 13 check? ) (3) Insidious Madness - Neverborn whispers since this weapon uses Wp > Wp or Wp > Df does it count as a Willpower duel for both occasions or only the Wp > Wp. Thanks lots sorry that its all bunched up i dont know how to spread the questions.
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06-11-2012, 11:35 PM #2
You may want to check the recent FAQ for clarifications on these but the short version is:
Only living models take terror checks, so even once you strip a model of any immunities to WP duels from Open the box, you don't automatically make them living... they are still undead, constructs, whatever..
Only damage caused by spells, or magic weapons are magic damage. So wounds inflicted by talents and abilities are not magical by default.
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06-11-2012, 11:59 PM #3
So my Quarrel with jack is legit and Pandora has no means of hurting him unless i use self loathing? and as for open the box, it dont work with moral duels.
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06-12-2012, 12:29 AM #4Rank: Wyrd
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Self-Loathing is a great way to hurt Jack Daw. But, you're right: Pandora doesn't have a lot of magic damage.
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06-12-2012, 06:21 AM #5
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Self loathing wouldn't work against jack. The damage from self loathing is done by Jack's own melee weapon which is not magical so he would ignore it.
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Don't try and hurt Jack.
Just drop a nice big crow and a Soulstone onto Project emotions and make him run away through Mental Anguish. You can keep him out of your hair for quite a while without killing him. Except if your opponent is Kirai.
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