can arcane effigy and casting expert be combined cast a 2 ap spell?

[bashamer]

I know specific and general so can't be combined; but I wanted to be be sure before stuffing 2 dolls a turn.

[Ausplosions]

I'm pretty sure not.

[DaemonChild]

The Arcane Effigy's extra AP for casting can be combined with other APs as it explicitly says so, but Casting Expert cannot, as the Rules Manual says it can't.

So for the exact question by the OP, no you can't do that.

[bashamer]

The Arcane Effigy's extra AP for casting can be combined with other APs as it explicitly says so, but Casting Expert cannot, as the Rules Manual says it can't.

So for the exact question by the OP, no you can't do that.

Whoa; er... NO.

The ability states nothing of the sort. "Combine" doesn't even appear in the wording. From rules and FAQ reading it seems like there are 2 sources of specific AP that overlap on "Cast". This is my understanding that "specific AP" is defined as AP gained for specific uses.

the "specific" modifier is optional as melee expert description has it, and flurry does not (same for casting equivalent).

but all the wordings are kinda inconsistent so I'm unsure on that reasoning.

[Alex]

It does specify that it can be used for Cast or Channel actions, so clearly it is intended to be combined with some other kind of AP, but not sure which is legit.

[DaemonChild]

Whoa; er... NO.

The ability states nothing of the sort. "Combine" doesn't even appear in the wording. From rules and FAQ reading it seems like there are 2 sources of specific AP that overlap on "Cast". This is my understanding that "specific AP" is defined as AP gained for specific uses.

the "specific" modifier is optional as melee expert description has it, and flurry does not (same for casting equivalent).

but all the wordings are kinda inconsistent so I'm unsure on that reasoning.

How do you suppose you are going to use 1 extra AP to use a Channel-action, when channeling is a 2AP action, if you can't combine it with general APs? The ability explicitly states you can use it for cast or channel-actions.
Ok, I can see it how you interpret it as not including spells that have a normal cost of 2, but having an AP that can be combined with general APs to channel, but not to cast 2-cost spells is a bit of a narrow thinking imo.

[bashamer]

as per FAQ

Can I use the specific AP from Casting Expert to pay for part of a (2) cost spell?
No. As stated in the Rules Manual (p33), specific AP cannot be combined with general AP.

and the casting effigy is specific AP in my reading, as there are limitations on how you can spend it. So you could combine it with other specific AP (maybe, that is what I'm asking) that also allow you to channel.

As of right now being able to channel does nothing as I'm unaware of anything that grants you bonus AP for channeling.

[VBGames]

I interpret it as general AP with limitations. Otherwise it would simply grant (+1) Casting Expert.

[cain]

Granting casting expert would be useless to most arcanist masters, because they already have it.

[TedPro]

The ability gives you 1AP which can be used for Casting or Channeling.

So, it's like general AP, but only for Casting or Channeling. This is different from Casting Expert. It's not "specific AP" even though it has limitations. (For a similar example, The Dreamer and Lord Chompy have restrictions on how they can spend their General AP, but it's still General AP.)

Casting Expert cannot be combined with that AP, because Casting Expert cannot be combined with other AP.

But that AP can be combined with other General AP just fine.