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    Bury / Unbury - Questions on timings.

    I've had a hunt through the forums, but my Search-Fu is failing me...

    We've been having a lively debate at our local club about when (and where) models unbury, so if possible please could we get some clarification.

    If you are unburied due to a spell / ability which specifies where you can be unburied - it's not a problem.
    For example:
    Collettes "Disappearing Act" places you back within 6" of her in the Start Closing Phase.
    Dreamers "Fightening Dream" immediately places you within 6" of him.

    Likewise if you're buried by a spell/ability which states clearly it's intention, that's also not an issue:
    For Example: Death Marshalls "Pine Box" indicates the "...target remains buried until..."

    However, if you're buried because of a spell effect which does not specify an end point (e.g. Dreamers "Calm Dreams" - bury friendly nightmares within 6"), do you simply unbury at the same position you were buried in the Resolve Effects Step of the Closing phase as all effects (such as spells) without a specified end point will end in this phase - or does the bury effect continue indefinately throughout the remainder of the encounter until a spell or ability specifically unburies the model (e.g. "Frightening Dream" as above) ?

    Some bury effects imply that you remain buried for as long as you wish - e.g. Bette Noirs "One with the Night" which suggests you can (but don't have to) use "Drawn to Death" to return to play at the beginning of the next turn.

    Likewise, those models in the Dreamers Crew who start the game buried - do they remain buried indefinately throughout the encounter until specificially unburied by a spell - or does the bury end in the Resolve Effects step of the first turn - and if so, where do they unbury ?

    In the same way with Dreamer / LCB - if the Dreamer is buried to release LCB, does LCB remain on the table throughout the remainder of the encounter (unless he is specificaly switched back to Dreamer), or does the switch automatically end in the Resolve Effects Step thereby replacing LCB with Dreamer ?

    The overall confusion has arisen from the wording on pg 13 which simply states that "a buried model unburies and returns to play when an effect allows it to do so" - but doesn't provide any examples.

    Any and all help gratefully received.

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    All models Stay buried until an Effect gets them unburied....

    Example: Colletes Spell say unbuy in the end Closing Phase... so the model unburies then.

    The Pine Box Spell says: Bury until the model wins the duel.

    The Nightmares in a Dreamer crew stay buried until the dreamer unburies them.... there are different Ways to do that.

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    The key point you're missing: buried models are not "in play" and are therefore not affected by the Resolve Effects phase.

    Mike

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    Thanks guys - confusion averted.

 

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