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03-08-2012, 11:13 AM #1Rank: Touched
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Need a master for von schill. And i dont want the viktorias
Nothing against the viks its just so overdone and my cousin/buddy's girlfriend has them and another guy who is going to be playing with us soon got the viks/von schill. So im looking for a master the would be a cool match with von fette and the freikorp. Faction does not matter and im all about wyrd crews that you wouldnt normaly see or think of.
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03-08-2012, 11:22 AM #2War Chicken
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He can keep up with Lilith, but I think you might end more Nephilim based crew
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03-08-2012, 11:28 AM #3Rank: Touched
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I dont know much about lilith but its an idea. Ive got this crazy idea of putting him in a perdita crew with an austringer and abuela ortega to give the austringer the family characteristic to join in the companion chain then issuing orders to von schill and him using leader on a trapper or librarian...but im not sure how that would work out
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03-08-2012, 11:37 AM #4Rodent Overlord

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He is very good with Zoraida. She can obey him to shoot, and she is not very soulstone dependant which means he isn't competing with her for them.
I also have run him with Seamus. He gives Seamus' crew some much needed hitting power and he can make great use of lured in models.. I don't care who you are if you get double teamed by a Seamus, Von Schill firing squad your going to feel it the next day.

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03-08-2012, 11:52 AM #5Rank: Touched
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I think i like you ratty. Id realy like to expand outside the outcasts i only have a somer and von schill crew. Ive got a lot of modles and options for those crews but i want more haha.
Also if i used VS with zorida i could lead a pretty righteous brawl list...Bad juju, von schill, a trapper or two, mixed in with a little pig boomerang throw in a pigapault fo kicks i like the way this is going
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03-08-2012, 12:28 PM #6(+1) Tickling Expert Rank: Extremely Wyrd
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Might be better asking "which Masters is Von Schill bad with?"

He is such a potent little pocket-superhero that few crews would not benefit from his, ah, unique set of skills.
I am considering trying him in a Colette crew, just for fun.
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03-08-2012, 01:57 PM #7Rank: Twisted
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Theory-Faux here, but I imagine he would be good fun with either Sonnia or Tina. Although there may be some competition for stones, the fact he can either ignore blasts, or can shrug off a lot of magic damage, could lead to some lols.
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03-08-2012, 02:10 PM #8
I've used Von Schill with Lilith on multiple occasions, and honestly, unless the strategy requires a massive amount of raw damage output, I find he's pretty much always a better use of 10SS than the Mature Nephil. He's highly mobile, Freikorps Armor is great, his weapons are pretty good, and the ability to give Death the finger as long as you've got a soulstone is really helpful. I love their partnership so much I'm tempted to write fanfiction about it, for the love of God.
One caveat; I've never felt the need to take any other Freikorps with Lilith, so if you're looking to use the entire Freikorps boxset, I don't know if that would be any good. Quite honestly, I'd say the soulstones you'd spend hiring the trapper in a Lilith list would be better spent on a Lelu. Or another Lelu. Whichever.
I've run something like this list before in a 35SS game. It may not be the most competitive list ever (don't have the cash to go to major tourneys, and am not quite sure if there are even any in this state, so I can't really test it at one), but I haven't done badly running it either. Customize to strategies and schemes and enjoy.
Master: Lilith (+4SS cache)
Totem: Primordial Magic (2SS)
Henchman: Von Schill (10SS)
Minions: Lelu (7SS), Lilitu (7SS) Young Nephil (6SS) or two Terror Tots (3SS each)
Soulstones in Cache: 7SS
If staying power matters bore than mobility, putting in a Stitched instead of Terror Tots/the Young could work well, and you'd have an extra soulstone left. Really, Lilith isn't dependent on her minions for synergy much (with the exception of her zero actions, which only benefit Nephillim), so she has a lot of room for customization.
Hope this helps with your decision.
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03-08-2012, 02:51 PM #9
Itīs one evil crew here! Plain slaying power, plain rules, plain fun! I have to try it sometimes.
One thing Iīm toying around with it VonSchill with Pandora. The reason is: Pandora really doesnīt need many soulstones on her own, meanig VonSchill wonīt compete. In addition, you basically get 2 super heroes who are able to do some pretty cool things all on their own.
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03-08-2012, 07:28 PM #10Calculated Luck Rank: Extremely Wyrd
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Zoraida is my favourite for Von Schill; though sometimes I rather take Ophelia and Rami LaCroix.
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