Waifs and Avatar of Entropy

[CrouchingMoose]

I remember seeing a write up someone did of leviticus on another site, and they mentioned for the avatar of entropy that apparently the waifs dont dissappear when you manifest. On top of that, since leviticus is still in play, the waif come back as long as leviticus is alive and he comes back thanks to the other riders.

Essentially, you get 2 waifs each turn than can do what they want and can be a lot more aggressive.

Is this true and if so what can aLeviticus do with 2 waifs that are summoned to him each turn they are killed?

[Scurry]

they dont dissapear because avatar levi still counts as levi so they still come back

extra activations mainly, believe they can still use their version of magical extension to cast his spells.

[CrouchingMoose]

Ok...is they any way this could be abused, such as turning them into spas?

[Scurry]

dont think so since nectrotic unmaking states enemy models and they dont drop counters when they die so other models like molly couldnt get free corpse counters

[Lucidicide]

You can sac them both with Drain Souls each turn. The -1Wp isn't a big deal with the riders since they are Immune to Influence...

[Fancy_Hat]

Waifs cannot use Avatar of Entropy's spells, page 42 of Twisting Fates, fourth bullet, "An Avatar's Talents and Spells cannot by used or copied by another non-Totem model." Waifs are not Totems, and can therefore not use the Avatar of Entropy's spells.

Drain souls cannot be performed on insignficant models, which the Waifs are.

The Waifs are really only going to give you activation control, and I guess you can simply try to cast their Tap Soul spell every activation because why not.

[Spiku]

Given the cost of the riders, you're happy to use those activations ;D

[Lucidicide]

Drain souls cannot be performed on insignficant models, which the Waifs are.

True story. My bad. I've never actually done it before, so that's good news at least.

[col_blitzwell]

they can still melee some1 but with a walk of 3 there's not much they will make it to b4 riders kill it.

[magicpockets]

Is this likely an oversight that they're not actually totems?