Going to start a Leviticus Crew

[magicpockets]

^^ On this, is Alyce an auto include or not so much any more?

[GAH]

I wouldn't say she's an auto-include, but personally I would include her unless I had a definite plan for replacing her. If I was going for avatar form and was bringing all the riders, or was using Ashes and Dust at 35 ss, I don't think I would bring her. Otherwise I would bring her since she's very useful to Leveticus.

[Necromorph]

Yeah I wouldn't say auto include, but maybe like 70-80% of lists...at least I use her about that much.

[Lucidicide]

I think it also comes down to your playstyle. It's true that she can help Leve immensely, but so can many models.

The real problem isn't what is auto-include, but how many models you realize you might want to use at some time given a certain strat/scheme combo...

And then you've bought everything there is to buy.

[Twisted Metal]

The card advantage Alyce give is nice but I have found that beyond the first turn Levi is to far away to benefit from it. If I wanted him in range for the card advantage one of two things have to happen. Alyce either has to spend AP to walk up to where Levi intends to Spawn Levi (if she does she is not shooting) or I have to position a waif near her which again telegraphs my intended spawn point.

[Lucidicide]

The card advantage Alyce give is nice but I have found that beyond the first turn Levi is to far away to benefit from it. If I wanted him in range for the card advantage one of two things have to happen. Alyce either has to spend AP to walk up to Levi (if she does she is not shooting) or I have to position a waif near her which telegraphs my intended spawn point.

Agreed. And last I recall, you just had to discard the extra cards as it doesn't increase your max hand size. Maybe that's changed, though.

But either way, it is quite difficult to get Leve near Alyce without basically shouting to your opponent your plans, and those Waifs are easy to kill.

[Twisted Metal]

No you do not get to keep the cards. It draw two and then discard down.

[AdrianMills]

OK so I have taken the plunge and bought the box set, DE and a pack of Waifs.

To start with going to run with the following

Rusty
Caninne Remains
4 Abominations
then depending on scenerios and opponent
3 Necro punks
2 Crooligans
Jack Daw
Rider

gives roughly 3 to 5 ss depending

I will be proxying in additional abominations and DE's if required till i get a better handle on what I need to run it. Also Ashes and Dus may make an apperance once I have it after xmas.

[Sniddy]

A bit late but my input as a new levi player

Rusty Alice is awesomely useful and even without the extra card input she makes her points most games.

The 2nd waif is very important, and worth the canine remains IMHO

The more soulstones the better - I really like to have a nice 6 or so floating about...their are times when that creature absolutely positively has to die - and you can burn 3 soulstones that turn easily

[magicpockets]

Thanks everyone for the input, I've now taken the plunge and ordered a nice core set of models to get to grips with him. On way from our friends at Maelstrom Games is -

Levi
Waif
Rusty Alyce
4x SPAs
Desolation Engine
Large Arachnid (the 5ss Arcanist one)
3x Necropunks

and I already have JackDaw, 6x Canine Remains and 3x Crooligans (on pre-order - I think they're undead??) to thrown into the mix.

Maybe next I'll pick up the riders, A&D and some hanged - what do you all think?
- MP