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06-16-2011, 05:02 PM #1
Quick question re the Crooked Man
If I kill the crooked man in close combat, due to his Slow to Die he get's a free action. If he then uses that free action to drop a Shafted token when does this happen in relation to my activation?
In other words as I killed him (let's assume it was my final AP through a charge or whatever, that actually did the killing) do I end my activation and THEN he get's his Slow to Die dropping the Shafted token after my activation is over (which makes it pointless as it will vanish during the End Closing Phase before I activate again assuming i dont get reactivated within that turn)...
Or would the Slow to Die kick in instantly (even though I was unable to do anything else that turn) making me technically end my ativation on top of the Shafted token and so I get hit with unavoidable damage. In this case the Crooked man guarentees at least one Shafted hit per game on whatever model takes it down in close combat (unless I choose to shoot him).
Thanks for the clarification on this.
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06-16-2011, 05:35 PM #2La Belle Mort
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I *think* it's the latter example you gave.
Model A's final action kills Crooked Man.
Crooked Man has slow to Die, so Pause Activation before it officially ends.
Crooked Man drops a Shafted token.
Finish Model A's Activation.
Model A ends its activation on top of a Shafted token. Model A takes damage.
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06-16-2011, 05:43 PM #3
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06-16-2011, 10:34 PM #4Wyrd in MN. Rank: Touched
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That's exactly how I played it tonight to take Perdita out of the game. (Ok- so my opponent helped by flipping the Red Joker...)
But it does read right to me.
Crooked Men and Belles really do work great together as well...
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06-17-2011, 07:06 AM #5came, saw, conquered Rank: Wyrd
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I don't think that's correct. The (2) Charge action has 2 components: a move and a strike. The move component has been completed when the crooked man dies, so the attacker won't trigger the shafted marker.
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06-17-2011, 09:02 AM #6La Belle Mort
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After re-checking the wording of Shafted, I think you may be right. I was under the impression that if you ended your activation in range of a shafted marker it caused damage. The move strike portion of the charge action I don't feel qualified to comment on.
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06-17-2011, 02:50 PM #7
Thanks for the input, I really need definitive though...
Here's the exact wording (assuming its okay to post):
When a model ends a move or push within 2" of a shafted marker...
So as the move was over before I attacked and therefore over before the Crooked man died, and therefore over before the shafted marker was placed I should take no damage from it's proximity so long as I move more than 2 inches away next movement.
Correct?
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06-17-2011, 03:38 PM #8Rank: Touched
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You can stand on a shafted marker and do whatever you like. If you end a move or push next to one, it goes off. You would not take damage in the OP's example.
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