RISE of DECEMBER - 30 point Scrap at RIW Hobbies - Livonia MI Dec 12

[nerdelemental]

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RISE OF DECEMBER

Malifaux TOURNAMENT!



Dec 12, RIW Hobbies, Livonia, MI


30 Stone Scraps! (bring one legal list- no changes throughout the event!) Changed! See Addendums at end of this first post!

~ 3 (possibly 4!) One hour and fifteen minute rounds (adjusted at the discretion of the TO).
~ Strategies will be assigned every round.
~ Up to 2 Schemes may be selected per game (you must write them down whether revealed to your opponent or not).

Registration and pre-game discussion will begin around Noon and cards flip around 12:30

$5.00 Entry fee (for prizes)

Incredible PRIZE PURSE:
First: THREE starter boxes of your choice
Second: TWO starter boxes of your choice
Third: ONE starter box of your choice
Painting prize for best painted Single Model!
(Entries must be legal Malifaux models but do not need to be included in your playlist for the day) (See Addendum 2 below)

Additional prizes TBD based upon attendance (in the form of store credit).

All players in the event will receive a 20% discount on Wyrd product in store or special order (if she sells out of something)

More specifics: We'll continue the trend of smaller scale games at the 30 Soulstone level for several months and hopefully bump that up to a 35 or 40 this coming spring.

Every board will be set and players assigned randomly throughout the day. The board will be labeled as appropriate from the Encounter Locations on pages 99-103. Each board will use the Random Encounter Features as defined on page 98

RISE OF DECEMBER
Special scenarios, terrain, and possibly Random Encounter Features will be used to represent the stirrings and influence of the Neverborn December.

(I might preview some ahead of time, but be prepared to read some of these special rules on the day of, too!)


Proxy clause:
Models not yet released to the public my be played if a suitable alternative "proxy" model is available and meets the following requirements:
1. it must be on a legal 30, 40, 50 mm base as appropriate per the model's specifications.
2. It should represent the model for which it's pretending to be as accurately as possible (i.e., your GW Ork might be on a 30 mm base, but it won't pass as a Viktoria but it might pass for one of the gremlins).
3. You must bring your use of proxied models to your opponent's attention prior to deployment. Failure to do so wll mean I'll have to do something about it. :eviltongu
4. If you're afraid that your single Steampunk Arachnid doesn't look like a Steampunk Abomination, run it by me. I'll have the final say in a proxy's legality.



RIW Hobbies
29116 Five Mile Rd.
Livonia, MI 48154

Phone #: 734-261-7233

(no lunch or dinner provided but we'll find opportunities to grab a number of options within walking distance between gaming rounds, I promise)


There's room for 20 comfortably. 24 tight. Up to 30 if we all don't mind brushing up against one another's butts.
Sign up to guarantee one of the first 16 spots!

1. my bro: WEiRD sKeTCH (maybe, but he wants it!)
2. Nitelook
3. Godspeed
4. MBowsher
5. Leb
6. Baconsizzler
7. Parius
8. Zombiedood
9. Grottoknight
10. Pairofducks (bailed!)
11. Magno
12. Fool (Guaranteed Wisconsinite in the house!)
13. Darkphantomz
14. Jokerohki (with WEiRD sKeTCH as another maybe)
15. Jmp_mydog - Josh P
16. Johnnyred
17. paperbagfox
18. Bulldog
19. Jeff (What, no cool forum name?)
20. Omenbringer
21. Rob "I don't even own any models yet" Steiner



(check this first post before the event as details and/or prize support information may update as necessary)

Addendum 1: Following the flavor and order of operations established for game setup in the book, instead of bringing ONE list that you're locked into for the day, you will now only declare your faction of the day at the onset of the tournament. Once you have your pairing established for your next game, you will be given a single strategy for both players. Then you will be given approximately TEN minutes to [secretly] build an appropriate list to best handle the scenario. Your crew may be completely different from game to game.

Addendum 2: Painting contest: after much deliberation and thought with the locals and some online friends, I'll ask that each entry in the painting contest must be entered by the painter himself. In the future, I may give awards based on "hobby enthusiast" that may open the possibility of awards for paintwork not done by the entrant, but this is intended as a reward for players also learning the art of the brush.

Addendum 3: Strategies Announced (both players play the same Strategy):

Game 1: Claim Jump

Game 2: There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gains the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman token gains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

Snowman FAQ: When a Snowman is killed it drops its hat. Place a Silk Hat token where the Snowman was. A model may pick up the hat for a (0) action, but only a model friendly to the original hat bearer. In other words, each crew has a hat and only they can pick up their hat - not their enemy.



Game 3: Assassinate (with mandated unique Event: Snowball Fight [see below])

Game 4 (if neccessary): Slaughter



Addendum 4:
Each Location will have a replaced Special Event/Special Feature table unique to the Rise of December:

Black Joker: Thick Snow (same as "Rubble" pg. 98) but, this is an event rather than Special Terrain (so it gets flipped for every turn and only lasts for then next turn)
1-2: White-out! (see below!)
3-4: Heavy Snows (pg. 99)
5-7: On Thin Ice! (see below!)
8-9: Snowball Fight! (see below!)
10-11: An Open Fire... (same as "Campsite" pg. 98)
12-13: Cruel Winds (pg. 99)
Red Joker: Thick Snow (same as "Rubble" pg. 98) but, this is an event rather than Special Terrain (so it gets flipped for every turn and only lasts for then next turn)

White-out!
During the next turn, any portion of the table without a covering terrain piece counts as covering terrain, and models cannot draw LoS further than 3".

Snowball Fight!
During the next turn, no opposed duel may be initiated by any model other than "Throw Snowball."

Every model loses its basic weapons for the turn but gains the following:
Throw Snowball
Rg: :ranged6
Cb: 5
Dg: 0/0/1

Throw Snowball may be used in melee. During a Snowball Fight, all models may ignore harmless and any ability requiring a Wp check to target an opposing model (Even that tart Pandora can be hit with a snowball!).

A player gains +1 VP whenever one of their models inflicts damage upon an opposing model with a Throw Snowball strike.

On Thin Ice!
For the duration of the game, any portion of the table without a terrain piece counts as hazardous terrain. Each model receives Slow as they slip and fall on their ass. Models may perform a Df -> 11 duel at the beginning of their activation to ignore the hazardous condition until the end of the turn. Rules of standard unopposed duels apply.

[nerdelemental]

Pam (the owner of RIW) heard that some of you might be willing to make a pretty long drive to commit to the event so she wanted to make it worth your trouble. Check out the prize pack!

[Nathan Caroland]

W00t!

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Woo hoo!

Sign me up as a maybe!

[Godspeed]

Do I get first!!!!??? I am so in...unless I happen to get a new job that requires saturdays by then (unlikely)

[mbowsher76]

Sign up me, Leb 14 and BaconSizzler.

[Parius]

What time will the tournament start?

[nerdelemental]

What time will the tournament start?


I knew I forgot something important!

12:00 pre-game countdown.
12:30(ish) cards flop.

If I get a frantic call from travelers on the freeway from Chicago, St. Louis, or Seattle that they'll be there at 12:45 then I bet I'll delay it a tad. ;)

[Godspeed]

Awe man, I guess I'll take 3rd, but I am gona take the first from Sketch in the event ;)

PS, it's I M I from the PP forum.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

The only thing you're going to be taking first is my dust as I fly past you!

[Godspeed]

haha, probably true. But let the smacktalking ensue.


wait...did I just rhyme? Maybe I need to go back to pen and paper and less brush to metal....nah.

[nerdelemental]

Godspeed: I was wondering who the hell you were!

How dare you change your forum name from a different forum! :ban:


;)

[Godspeed]

Guilty as charged Brady.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Lotta man love happening here.

:smiliebla

MOAR SMACKTALK!

[Godspeed]

I'll manlove your mom.

So, what master is people planning on taking? Is there gona be a fully painted army award? Cuz...me and my commission buddy will be ;)

Oh, and if something was commissioned, can the owner enter it as a best painted contestant?

[nerdelemental]

Is there gona be a fully painted army award?

Oh, and if something was commissioned, can the owner enter it as a best painted contestant?


First question: currently, I doubt it. Planning on single model (as specified in the first post, but there's a lot to read up there). However, as we get closer, if there's a batch of people committed to the event I may open a revised "fully painted army" or have two separate painting awards.

Second question: this one's tougher. On the one hand, I want to reward the gamer that's also so committed he'll cover each aspect of the hobby. That's a real champion. On the other hand, as an artist, myself, I recognize the interest a player has in gettting a fully painted army out on the table to represent the game better than he, himself, might and the commissioned work does still promote the game, shows interest in painted work, and even though it's not the work of the player, it does represent money as investment rather than time and skill. Additionally, this awards raw talent, too, and some players have great drive to paint well and really want to, but never will be good. Finally, I'd like to say "I'm rewarding the player that can paint, too" but the reality is that if a person commissioned a piece from some far away painter in a far away land, how would I know unless he made it public knowledge? I'll continue to take comments and advice on this topic.

[Parius]

Sign me up please.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Second question: this one's tougher. On the one hand, I want to reward the gamer that's also so committed he'll cover each aspect of the hobby. That's a real champion. On the other hand, as an artist, myself, I recognize the interest a player has in gettting a fully painted army out on the table to represent the game better than he, himself, might and the commissioned work does still promote the game, shows interest in painted work, and even though it's not the work of the player, it does represent money as investment rather than time and skill. Additionally, this awards raw talent, too, and some players have great drive to paint well and really want to, but never will be good. Finally, I'd like to say "I'm rewarding the player that can paint, too" but the reality is that if a person commissioned a piece from some far away painter in a far away land, how would I know unless he made it public knowledge? I'll continue to take comments and advice on this topic.
This is always a rough decision to make. But I prefer to not have the person with the biggest pocketbook 'buy' the award. If you catch my drift.

But that's just me. ;)

[paradox]

Probably, but I need to check 1st and see what's shakin that day.

[redstripe]

RISE of December?! That beast will eat your face!

[Godspeed]

Well, the reason I ask is that I do alot of commission work for another attendee, and believe me it's not the biggest pocket book as a matter, I do some amazing speed painting for the quality I put out, so I charge what the model cost ($35 to paint a box set for a friend, not alot to ask) and have turned out 2 boxes +3 blisters of Arcanists in under a week, actually roughly 3 days worth of work (few hours a day.)

I think, we have it planned that if he wins anything, he will not claim it as his own and pick me up something worth half the prize from his own pocket. But that's just what we were discussing. Really tho, I don't expect to win any awards, but it was a thought we were both having that is a toughy to keep fair in all regards.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

I understand that.

It's also possible that someone could have a Commander Y comissioned paint job on a model (he ain't cheap) and win the best painted contest. I just feel it sets a bad precedent is all. Award effort before anything else. But that's a hard thing to judge though... :club:

[Godspeed]

Which is exactly why I brought it up here :)

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Oh yeah?!

Well, I'll bring up your mom!

Wait...

I mean...

:doh:

[GrottoKnight]

Rasputina will bring her tight frozen as to this party. She likes to party.

Check me in, maybe I will even paint something

PS- NO Hoarcat prides

[zombied00d]

I go forth to bring partially painted gremlin chaos!

[Godspeed]

I was going to bring the Gremlins but I like the prizes available :)

[paradox]

Lotta man love happening here.

Just wait til you actually show up. Then I'll show ya Manlove! :dancing:

[nerdelemental]

RISE of December?! That beast will eat your face!


Well....not really like the big guy is going to climb out of a snowdrift and start eating everyone. More like he's stretching a little bit and bringing some wintry badassery down on the invaders.

You know...stirrings and stuff.

That's why one of the new scenarios will be "There Must Have Been Some Magic in that Old Silk Hat".

And an alternative event will be Snowball Fight.

December demands it!

[maverickman5]

Well....not really like the big guy is going to climb out of a snowdrift and start eating everyone. More like he's stretching a little bit and bringing some wintry badassery down on the invaders.

You know...stirrings and stuff.

That's why one of the new scenarios will be "There Must Have Been Some Magic in that Old Silk Hat".

And an alternative event will be Snowball Fight.

December demands it!


...and the trickiest scenario of all: "Don't eat the Yellow Snow!"

[Godspeed]

Well...I may be reconsidering my Master...I am now on a losing streak with Sonnia...Som'er just annihilated me.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Just wait til you actually show up. Then I'll show ya Manlove! :dancing:
:afraid:

Is that Dueling Banjos I hear?

[Godspeed]

I just now realized that Perdita's box is made for 30 point events...I wonder how often we will see it...I wana use them but hate mirror matches :(

[Fool]

If WS can make it here...So can any old Fool....(that means sign me up please)

[GrottoKnight]

Proxy clause:
Models not yet released to the public my be played if a suitable alternative "proxy" model is available and meets the following requirements:
1. it must be on a legal 30, 40, 50 mm base as appropriate per the model's specifications.
2. It should represent the model for which it's pretending to be as accurately as possible (i.e., your GW Ork might be on a 30 mm base, but it won't pass as a Viktoria but it might pass for one of the gremlins).
3. You must bring your use of proxied models to your opponent's attention prior to deployment. Failure to do so wll mean I'll have to do something about it. :eviltongu
4. If you're afraid that your single Steampunk Arachnid doesn't look like a Steampunk Abomination, run it by me. I'll have the final say in a proxy's legality.




You may want to add a clause to stop this broken Som'er Teeth Jones, Mosquito Totem combo I am hearing about where you get to draw your whole deck and get right next to any model for death.
(Sorry Gordy)
Nerd may want to check this........

[GrottoKnight]

Here it IS

Originally Posted by greyseerco http://www.wyrd-games.net/forum/fusion/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?p=99330#post99330)
As a recent "victim" of the draw the complete deck into hand with a 4 mosquito, 2 Hog Whisperer, Warpig 25SS list, I must say this was rather disheartening, even when I ran a mostly construct list with Rasputina.

Turn 1, during all my activations, he just kept sacraficing one mosquito to another generating cards until all my activations were over, then proceeded to draw his entire deck. Then using the mosquitos to basically pull themselves across the board (using the combination of Summon and the fact that an All action can still be done if you are slowed), "moved" his 4 mosquitos across the board, then "moved" them right next to Rasputina, then had one attack with a red-joker, to which rasputina flipped, cheated and soulstoned to stay alive. Have a second mosquito repeat with a 13 and rasputina doing the same. Then using the other two sacraficed them away and moved, them back to the otherside of the board. Round 2 and 3 were the same until Rasputina died, having run out of soulstones.

So we meta-gamed a bit more and my only solution to this is to run with an all construct list, but even then with a Warpig with a stacked deck (by discarding all but the best, and spending the first portion of the turn drawing up the deck) he can kill most anything. If he can play the discard pile as only three cards (red joker and two 13's) card there is a 2/3 chance the attack is a 13, a 50/50 chance of the damage being red joker, and if so a warpig can do 12 points of damage in a single hit.

So I do hope there is a fix for this card draw engine, as it does make for very long and one sided battle.

[darkphantomz]

It is on!
Sign me up for you doom nerdelemental!

[nerdelemental]

If WS can make it here...So can any old Fool....(that means sign me up please)

Awesome, Fool! It'll be great to see you again (though you might not even remember me - I have two of your carrying trays).



It is on!
Sign me up for you doom nerdelemental!

I was hoping you'd sign up!


@Grotto: I don't know if the Wyrd decision will be made regarding the endless recursion in time for the event, but I don't think anyone intended on an endless recursion. I'll have an answer in place regardless to keep it under control, even though I think it's more a neat trick than broken auto-win.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Add Jokerohki with my maybe. :santa:

[paradox]

Hot Pants!

[Godspeed]

Please leave the hot pants at home..

[jmp_mydog]

Sign me up, Josh P.

[johnnyred]

iam in put me down i talk to pam side she would tell u.

[nerdelemental]

:)

I'm glad you're all going to make it out for a great day of play!

Pam (the LGS owner) is also very excited. She says we'll have the room we need to accomodate some good play.

Also, she alluded to the thought that we might have even MORE prize support for the event. Enough to make it really appealing.

Also, my call on this one: you guys willing to drive from Chi-town: there's no reason we need you to pay the small $5 buy-in entry. I'll be absorbing your entry fee! We'll just be thrilled to have you. The driver(s) might additionally receive a small token of appreciation from me and/or Pam for the trouble, too.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

That's mighty cool of you Nerd.

:usa2:

[mbowsher76]

That's mighty cool of you Nerd.

:usa2:

Cool and nerd in the same sentence....weird (oops...that would be Weird Sketch, lol)

[paperbagfox]

I know you have your 16 guaranteed sports but I would like to put my name in for the day of fun.

[Fool]

:)

I'm glad you're all going to make it out for a great day of play!

Pam (the LGS owner) is also very excited. She says we'll have the room we need to accomodate some good play.

Also, she alluded to the thought that we might have even MORE prize support for the event. Enough to make it really appealing.

Also, my call on this one: you guys willing to drive from Chi-town: there's no reason we need you to pay the small $5 buy-in entry. I'll be absorbing your entry fee! We'll just be thrilled to have you. The driver(s) might additionally receive a small token of appreciation from me and/or Pam for the trouble, too.

Oh sure the Chi-town boys get in free, is that because people from Wisconsin have to pay double?:smiliebla

Just one more to the list of reasons Nerd :aetsch:
:ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban:

[mriverakc]

Arrrggghhhh! I live in CA. No way I am going to be there.

[nerdelemental]

Oh sure the Chi-town boys get in free, is that because people from Wisconsin have to pay double?:smiliebla

Just one more to the list of reasons Nerd :aetsch:
:ban::ban::ban::ban::ban::ban:


Not only would you be gettin' in free, but we're talking about an award not just for the driver(s) of the crew, but maybe for the guy that's come in the furthest!

Don't worry, Fool. Of all the reasons everyone wants me banned, you're not going to be one of them!




Arrrggghhhh! I live in CA. No way I am going to be there.

When you get your plane ticket, let me know the details so I can pick you up at the airport. I'll not only pay your way into the event, but I'll feed you, too!

[nerdelemental]

I know you have your 16 guaranteed sports but I would like to put my name in for the day of fun.

Done!

We're going to do our damnedest to get everyone playing that wants to.

[nerdelemental]

I've made one major change to the event.

See the end of the first post for addendums to the rules.

Here is the change:

Addendum 1: Following the flavor and order of operations established for game setup in the book, instead of bringing ONE list that you're locked into for the day, you will now only declare your faction of the day at the onset of the tournament. Once you have your pairing established for your next game, you will be given a single strategy for both players. Then you will be given approximately TEN minutes to [secretly] build an appropriate list to best handle the scenario. Your crew may be completely different from game to game.

[mbowsher76]

I've made one major change to the event.

See the end of the first post for addendums to the rules.

Here is the change:

Addendum 1: Following the flavor and order of operations established for game setup in the book, instead of bringing ONE list that you're locked into for the day, you will now only declare your faction of the day at the onset of the tournament. Once you have your pairing established for your next game, you will be given a single strategy for both players. Then you will be given approximately TEN minutes to [secretly] build an appropriate list to best handle the scenario. Your crew may be completely different from game to game.

Excellent!

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

I've made one major change to the event.

See the end of the first post for addendums to the rules.

Here is the change:

Addendum 1: Following the flavor and order of operations established for game setup in the book, instead of bringing ONE list that you're locked into for the day, you will now only declare your faction of the day at the onset of the tournament. Once you have your pairing established for your next game, you will be given a single strategy for both players. Then you will be given approximately TEN minutes to [secretly] build an appropriate list to best handle the scenario. Your crew may be completely different from game to game.

This is great. :)

[Godspeed]

Not only would you be gettin' in free, but we're talking about an award not just for the driver(s) of the crew, but maybe for the guy that's come in the furthest!

Don't worry, Fool. Of all the reasons everyone wants me banned, you're not going to be one of them!





When you get your plane ticket, let me know the details so I can pick you up at the airport. I'll not only pay your way into the event, but I'll feed you, too!
Hey, I drove all the way from AZ a month ago...not really for this event, but lack of gaming was a small part of why I came home!

I've made one major change to the event.

See the end of the first post for addendums to the rules.

Here is the change:

Addendum 1: Following the flavor and order of operations established for game setup in the book, instead of bringing ONE list that you're locked into for the day, you will now only declare your faction of the day at the onset of the tournament. Once you have your pairing established for your next game, you will be given a single strategy for both players. Then you will be given approximately TEN minutes to [secretly] build an appropriate list to best handle the scenario. Your crew may be completely different from game to game.
Damn, and here I was thinkin I MAY get to come fully painted...

[paradox]

Fine. Lookit you and your fancy poster. Why don't you go ahead and make me a fershure....see if I care.

[nerdelemental]

Fine. Lookit you and your fancy poster. Why don't you go ahead and make me a fershure....see if I care.


:p

Do you know how much time I speant on that damned poster? I only figured out the stupid "layers" of my Gimp after I saved it as a JPG.

>:(

[Godspeed]

Your moms a gimp.

[paperbagfox]

Done!

We're going to do our damnedest to get everyone playing that wants to.

Thanks man see you Dec. 12

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Did you tap Fool for making any kind of prizes?

He does awesome work. He made some trophy bases for my Halloween eent and they turned out GREAT!

Shoot him a PM and see what you two can work out.

[paradox]

Sorry, gotta back out. I'm out of commision the next 6 saturdays.

[Fool]

I am completely in, hotel rooms are set, family is warned, and the cat is fed. Looking forward to playing!

:elefant::thcow2:

[Godspeed]

Hey fool, could you PM me your pricing on treys, if you are still doing that I mean.

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Hey fool, could you PM me your pricing on treys, if you are still doing that I mean.
It's probably best for you to PM him. ;)

[Fool]

I will have both at the tourny. Malifaux, and some other game, that rhymes with warclean.

:tj:

[bulldog]

count me in

[nerdelemental]

Awww....Bulldog's very first post. isn't he adorable? Awww..


Fool! I'm stoked you're a for sure! We're going to treat you like royalty. I'll take you over Paradox any day (he's such a power gamer that he tied for first at a recent event having only played the game for several weeks....the jerk....)
:p

[paradox]

srsly. And then ditch out on yer event to top it! What an @$$hole!

[mrhobbitino]

I hope that's me number 19, because I wasn't on the forums until now and told you in person. I don't know if MrHobbitino is a cool forum name or not. Just think of me as the Halfling Godfather.:guns:

[nerdelemental]

:)
If you're the Jeff that's been hanging with us on Tuesday nights, then that's you, Mr. Halfling Godfather with the old school Cyclon avatar just to confuse me.

Hobbits, halflings, gold plated 80's Cylon....

[Omenbringer]

Go ahead and pen me in for this tournament if ya wood please.

[nerdelemental]

Omenbringer - your in, buddy!

Here's an addendum!

I've created the following unique scenario which will run for the second round game. Look it over for any glaring errors or issues needing clarification. Build your army appropriately.

There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gains the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman token gains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

[mbowsher76]

Omenbringer - your in, buddy!

Here's an addendum!

I've created the following unique scenario which will run for the second round game. Look it over for any glaring errors or issues needing clarification. Build your army appropriately.

There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gainst the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman token gains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

Sweeet!

[Godspeed]

Omenbringer - your in, buddy!

Here's an addendum!

I've created the following unique scenario which will run for the second round game. Look it over for any glaring errors or issues needing clarification. Build your army appropriately.

There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gainst the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman token gains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

fixt

[Omenbringer]

The Snowman sounds rather entertaining. Might I suggest the addition of a ranged weapon, Snow Ball (get'er mind outta da gutta) 8R, CB 4, DG 1/2/3B

[Godspeed]

lmao, I wasn't thinking dirty till you said that...and no...I really didn't expect that outa a clean cut guy like you, haha way to be bro, way to be.

[Omenbringer]

Was also thinking of a trigger for him;

CB (Crows) Yellow Snow: Poisonous: Poison 2 and insignificant.

Though I figure this would be over the top for the snow man.

[nerdelemental]

:)

I have plans for snowballs in a different thing for this event...
Want each one to stay as simple as possible.
:)
Killer Frosty Snowmen, though - that's something I considered making Teddy-level.

[nerdelemental]

Hopefully this'll be the end of the big announcements.
I've got all the strategies in place ahead of time, including the unique strategy. Additionally, here's the replaced special events that affect every board and location throughout the day.

The intent is to provide the information ahead of time to give you an opportunity to plan your army composition accordingly as well as keep the event moving quickly and fluidly on the 12th.

These are subject to change as necessary, so keep that in mind before the event (I'll try to post any changes as they happen, as quickly as possible).



Addendum 3: Strategies Announced (both players play the same Strategy):

Game 1: Claim Jump

Game 2: There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gains the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman tokengains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

Game 3: Assassinate (with mandated unique Event: Snowball Fight [see below])

Game 4 (if neccessary): Slaughter


Addendum 4:
Each Location will have a replaced Special Event/Special Feature table unique to the Rise of December:

Black Joker: Flip two more cards
1-2: White-out! (see below!)
3-4: Heavy Snows (pg. 99)
5-7: Thick Snow (same as "Rubble" pg. 98)
8-9: Snowball Fight! (see below!)
10-11: An Open Fire... (same as "Campsite" pg. 98)
12-13: Cruel Winds (pg. 99)
Red Joker: On Thin Ice! (see below!)

White-out!
During the next turn, any portion of the table without a covering terrain piece counts as covering terrain, and models cannot draw LoS further than 3".

Snowball Fight!
During the next turn, no opposed duel may be initiated by any model other than "Throw Snowball."

Every model loses its basic weapons for the turn but gains the following:
Throw Snowball
Rg: :ranged6
Cb: 5
Dg: 0/0/1

Throw Snowball may be used in melee. During a Snowball Fight, all models may ignore harmless and any ability requiring a Wp check to target an opposing model.

A player gains +1 VP whenever one of their models inflicts damage upon an opposing model with a Throw Snowball strike.

On Thin Ice!
For the duration of the game, any portion of the table without a terrain piece counts as hazardous terrain (damage=2). Models may perform a Df -> 12 duel to ignore the hazardous condition.

[mbowsher76]

Hopefully this'll be the end of the big announcements.
I've got all the strategies in place ahead of time, including the unique strategy. Additionally, here's the replaced special events that affect every board and location throughout the day.

The intent is to provide the information ahead of time to give you an opportunity to plan your army composition accordingly as well as keep the event moving quickly and fluidly on the 12th.

These are subject to change as necessary, so keep that in mind before the event (I'll try to post any changes as they happen, as quickly as possible).



Addendum 3: Strategies Announced (both players play the same Strategy):

Game 1: Claim Jump

Game 2: There Must Have Been Some Magic in That Old Silk Hat They Found

* place a 30 mm Snowman token in the center of the board.
During deployment each player declares one of his models to be carrying a Magic Silk Hat. Any model carrying a Silk Hat also gains the following abilitites:
(1) Build Snowman: if no snowman is currently in play, this model may create one at the center point of the board.
(0) When they Placed it on His Head: interact with Snowman Token. Summon the Snowman. The Snowman tokengains the following stats and becomes friendly to the player placing the hat.
Wk/Ch: 4/6, Ht: 2, Wp: 5, Ca: 5, Df: 3, Wd: 5
Snowy Fist: Rg: 1melee, Cb: 4, Dg: 1/2/4

Victory Conditions: Score 4 VP if the Snowman is in the controlling player's deployment zone at the end of the game.

Score 2 VP if you control a Snowman but it is not in your deployment zone at the end of the game.

Game 3: Assassinate (with mandated unique Event: Snowball Fight [see below])

Game 4 (if neccessary): Slaughter


Addendum 4:
Each Location will have a replaced Special Event/Special Feature table unique to the Rise of December:

Black Joker: Flip two more cards
1-2: White-out! (see below!)
3-4: Heavy Snows (pg. 99)
5-7: Thick Snow (same as "Rubble" pg. 98)
8-9: Snowball Fight! (see below!)
10-11: An Open Fire... (same as "Campsite" pg. 98)
12-13: Cruel Winds (pg. 99)
Red Joker: On Thin Ice! (see below!)

White-out!
During the next turn, any portion of the table without a covering terrain piece counts as covering terrain, and models cannot draw LoS further than 3".

Snowball Fight!
During the next turn, no opposed duel may be initiated by any model other than "Throw Snowball."

Every model loses its basic weapons for the turn but gains the following:
Throw Snowball
Rg: :ranged6
Cb: 5
Dg: 0/0/1

Throw Snowball may be used in melee. During a Snowball Fight, all models may ignore harmless and any ability requiring a Wp check to target an opposing model.

A player gains +1 VP whenever one of their models inflicts damage upon an opposing model with a Throw Snowball strike.

On Thin Ice!
For the duration of the game, any portion of the table without a terrain piece counts as hazardous terrain (damage=2). Models may perform a Df -> 12 duel to ignore the hazardous condition.


Bowen...this event looks awesome! I am very excited about it and me and the Jackson crew should be able to make it (though Bill is questionable due to work issues).

[Godspeed]

Just got next weeks schedule and I am in!

[nerdelemental]

Excellent, Godspeed.

Here's another idea that I'd like some input on.
A lot of the locals have been complaining about certain schemes that are "auto-includes" such as Holdout.
Since every army has one faction specific scheme and five universal schemes, what do you all think of imposing a rule like this: "No scheme may be selected and used in consecutive games"

It would mean at least four schemes and they couldn't be used in back to back games.

On the other, maybe it's not worth caring about despite the discrepency.

Thoughts?

[maverickman5]

Just go all out: No Schemes may be repeated until Round 4.

[Omenbringer]

I dont think the schemes should be restricted. Even announced they are only worth two points. Not to mention its not just the schemes that can be unbalanced, some of the strategies can be easier or harder depending on Crew selection or faction choice.

In the end it is all part of the game.

[Godspeed]

I agree. Tho, after getting a feel for my army, my Res. scheme doesn't seem so awful.

[nerdelemental]

Agreed! No rule regarding schemes! Play the game.

That being said, all of the strategies are announced at the end of the first post so armies can be built accordingly ahead of time if you wish, or at least a general concept of one.

I've made minor tweaks (to On Thin Ice, for example) and some rules additions and clarification (to The Silk Hat unique strategy).

As I receive questions or discover problems I hadn't thought about I'll bring it to your attention. Hopefully all the big stuff is out there for the public to digest before the event and we'll roll pretty fluidly the day of.

Cards flip at 12:30!

[Godspeed]

Agreed! No rule regarding schemes! Play the game.
Not sure I'd call all your shenanigans "playing"


;)

[nerdelemental]

Not sure I'd call all your shenanigans "playing"


;)

You know where I am. Bring it on, punk.

[Godspeed]

I am hoping I can make it up there this Tuesday, we will see.

[nerdelemental]

For those keeping track at home, I made a slight change to the Special Events/Special Terrain in the first post. Moved some around and changed the Heavy Snows from a game-long Special Terrain to the more managable Special Event that occurs only on flips of 11+ (or is that a 10+? I don't have my book with me and can't remember...)

I'm making new terrain like a madman and even have my six year old helping me make some snowman models. :)

The game boards should look pretty good, I hope.

[mbowsher76]

Question. on those special events, do you check at the end of each round, even if it has already happened once?

[nerdelemental]

Yep. Every round. Even if the event is in effect for the current round it might show up again next round.

[mbowsher76]

Yep. Every round. Even if the event is in effect for the current round it might show up again next round.
Cool!

[Godspeed]

What about the Snowball Fight assassinate round...is that the entire game is a snowball fight?

[nerdelemental]

Godspeed, that's an important FAQ kind of question.

NO, it's just the Special Event I'm dictating for that game. You and your opponent still flip for it round by round. Some games might never see a snowball fight. Some might see it the majority of their rounds!

Probably good to get the fight as you can potentially rack up a ton of extra VP if you're willing to pitch solid cards on a good iceball to the face.

[paradox]

Stupid real life....

I wanna chuck snowballs! :damnmate:

[Godspeed]

Stupid real life has allowed me to do that the last couple days...

[Fool]

HA! maybe I'll bring some REAL Wisconsin snow to throw.....not your crap Michigan snow you guys get.

[Godspeed]

Yeh, no thanks. You can keep yours and take ours with ya too.

[Godspeed]

Looks like David is going, please tell me we got room for 1?

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Well, it appears that my 'maybe' has to become a 'not gonna make it'.

Jokerohki (my ride) got stuck doing work stuff all weekend...

I expect to be chastised harshly by Nerd. :damnmate:

[nerdelemental]

Well, it appears that my 'maybe' has to become a 'not gonna make it'.

Jokerohki (my ride) got stuck doing work stuff all weekend...

I expect to be chastised harshly by Nerd. :damnmate:


Pick one:
:spank:


:thumpdown


:lame:


Seriously: you're coming from ~5 hours away and have always been a 'maybe'. I'd have been thrilled to have you in the house and talk shop, but we'll hug and slap asses at Gencon if not sooner!

[nerdelemental]

Looks like David is going, please tell me we got room for 1?

As always predicted (and expected by my inflated sign up on the first page), there's a few drops and likely a few more by tomorrow. (making a few openings)

Bring him and anyone else that'd like to play - I think that anyone that shows up that wants to play will get a spot. Pam's pretty committed to this event - the prize support should indicate that! She says she'll bump the regular weekend Yu-Gi-Ugh tournament altogether if we need their space.

Solid.


trivia:
I've been working late into every night on terrain and it'll barely be noticed. New "twisted" Malifauxnian buildings and they take a butt-load of time. Planned on creating double what you'll all see, but by a May event there should be a stellar Malifaux Western themed board!

I even bought some Wyrd coffins this week and lost them (never put blisters in your coat pocket...)

[mbowsher76]

Bacon Sizzler won't be making it, but Luke and I are still coming up with Jake and David.

[paradox]

edit: nothing to se here, I missed a page!

[paradox]

trivia:
I've been working late into every night on terrain and it'll barely be noticed. New "twisted" Malifauxnian buildings and they take a butt-load of time. Planned on creating double what you'll all see, but by a May event there should be a stellar Malifaux Western themed board!

I even bought some Wyrd coffins this week and lost them (never put blisters in your coat pocket...)
You should organize a terrain day on a saturday, or do a terrain night some Tuesday. It helps to have extra hands and pre-set stations to assembly line. All terrain made goes to the store so everyone benefits. Pizza for workers is also a bribe.

[GrottoKnight]

You should organize a terrain day on a saturday, or do a terrain night some Tuesday. It helps to have extra hands and pre-set stations to assembly line. All terrain made goes to the store so everyone benefits. Pizza for workers is also a bribe.

no comment :)

[GrottoKnight]

DarkPhantomz bailed 'cause of car issues and now i'm out too, staying with family.

[paradox]

no comment :)
Don't be shy. ;)
We've the same with MAOW in the past. How do you think RIW got it's 4x4s?

[mrhobbitino]

I wouldn't even mind a hang out and paint your crew night. Seeing I'm most likely going to be playing with only primed minis again:disappoin

[GrottoKnight]

change of plan, i am coming on my own......er .......ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[GrottoKnight]

i lied, i was actually driving there with my wife crying at home and decided i was being selfish. she needs help with baby and we need to gets some presents for xmas. very sorry. gotta make the right decision. (and maybe not do it over forum pages)

[nerdelemental]

We missed you, Grotto. And we had a good time. Still, you're preaching to the choir about real life. You did the right thing for the greater good. I'm sure we'll see you out and about again!

I'm thinking we'll see an event posted soon for around late Jan, early Feb.

[maverickman5]

Results????

[Magno]

Sorry I couldn't make it. Both my sons got hammered with ear infections at the same time. Laundry is a full time job right now with all the puking.

[Godspeed]

Fool took the Gold, followed by Paperabag for second IIRC, and then Steinerplex for third. My head was just not into today, aquaintance of mine's funeral today, etc etc. Oh well, I still had a great time and David who is an avid Card Flopper said he had a blast even going 0-3, with his first minis game being Malifaux, learning less than a month ago, and already feeling up to the tourney scene. Score one for the jackson crew :)

[nerdelemental]

Turn out was rather low - everyone seemed to have something come up across the board....
No hard feelings, though, as the men in the house had a great time, me included. Great group. No big problems, even with rules questions. In the end, a VP based day is clearly the way to make obvious winners.

Huge congrats to Gary/FOOL for driving ~6 hours from Wisconsin to take home the top spot of the day! After Rob stole one of his box sets from him I lost track of which he ended up taking, but I think it went Lilith, Pandora, and...um...Now I cannot remember. Conga Rats regardless - great gamer, great sportsman, great to talk shop. You're welcome in our house any time you can make it out, man. Don't forget - if you make the drive you're in free for any of my events!

Brian/Paperbagfox took second, losing to Gary in the near absolute mirror match (their Perdita armies were identical save for Fool's with a Witchling Stalker and Paperbagfox's with an extra Marshal). Brian, you said Fool stomped you, but at round three I thought you were both trading blows back and forth. It was probably me with my pesky rules interferance about your Perdita being unable to charge through or around that small puddle that cost you your game. Sorry. I'm a jerk that way. Still, you played a good game.

Rob Steiner walked out with third.

Rob, Josh/jmp_mydog, and Chuck, and Dave had the most interesting spots of contention, all fighting not just for their own win in the third round, but a win with the most VP to hit the third place spot. Snowball fighting was the unsung hero of the day, as predicted, giving a ton of points when you knew how and when to get them. In the end of round three, Josh won his game with 22 VP total and Rob won his with 23.

Just so I wouldn't have any second guesses about "but I had the most VP....why didn't I win overall?..." Fool ensured no shenanigans about it by clocking in at 24 VP. A win for the day with authority.

:)

[Godspeed]

@Bowen, I hope to organize something in Jackson sooner rather than later, will just need to be at our gaming club, with no gaming store existing here. So, prize support will be tricky to figure out (May shell out for some of it). That way you get to play next time.

[Peoples Champ]

It would be interesting to hear what the top three place-getters had in their crews...
Can anyone help?

[Godspeed]

First Top 2 were guild, 3rd was Ramos.

[nerdelemental]

And the rules stipulated that everyone could rebuild their lists for each new game, and I believe the top two guys changed their lists a bit. I believe Lady J saw an appearance by at least one of them (IIRC both ran a Lady J list).

I bet they'll pop on here sooner or later and tell us their lists, but the final had Perdita, Samael, a Nino, several Marshals and a Witchling.

[Godspeed]

Totally broken ;)

I do loves me some Perdita.

[nerdelemental]

I remember a tournament recently that had a Resurrectionist win the day with Seamus....
Maybe he's broken, too?

;)

[Godspeed]

lol. Tiz why I love this game. Any master can give me a run for my money but there's still a select few that make me work for it almost every game. Sold pretty much all my other minis at this point.

[paperbagfox]

Great day of card flipping. Everyone was fun to talk to and play against, both Bowshers were fun games and Fool was a great way to end the day.

@Bowen, the game changed when I lost my Nino and Fool still had his with no wounds. The reason I said I got stomped was due to walking out of the game with no VPs. It was a close game till turn 2 (maybe 3) and then thats when it all changed.

Great event (LOVED THE SNOWMAN GAME) looking forward to the next.

[Omenbringer]

Real life commitments suck, had a Toys four Tots event that had to be covered and a recruiter poolie function that I had to assist with.

Wish I could have been there, who won the painting comp?

[Godspeed]

Due to low turn out it was pushed out. I think the award would have been taken by Fool as well.

[nerdelemental]

Well...only because of what I saw and made a periphery judgement call. Godspeed, I think you'd have been in the running, too. And in all fairness, several other pieces I saw during the day were worthy of a second look and some may have had painted pieces in the bag that won the day.
Whatever. next time.

Yeah - real life just came up and got everyone, it seems! This time of year will do that to you. I had originally planned the event to run closer to the end of November, first weekend in December but put it back when Pandemonium announced their's just several days before I was ready to post mine and thought it'd be best for everyone to postpone it. I don't blame anyone that had other commitments derail their plans. I had a great time and loved everyone in the room. With lower numbers it's much easier to keep track of everything, keep everything running smoothly, and - most important to me - get to talk to everyone and know what's going on.

I had a really fun day.

[paradox]

I had a great time and loved everyone in the room.

I had a really fun day.
Damn it! I knew I missed out on something!

[Fool]

Hey all I had a great time, thank you.

My first game was against Mike. I took Lady J, 2 death marshals, Samael, Nino, and a witchling. Samael was cut in half the second turn from a mature Nephilim, Lady J took down 2 Mature Nephilim, and Lilith herself. Thank you Mike for teaching me how to play Lilith better.

The second game was against Godspeed. My crew was Perdita, 2 death marshals, 1 witchling, nino, and the executioner. Seamus ran forward a little to much very early in the game. Everything shot at him that turn, and could not kill him. I was very lucky and got to go first the next turn, and Seamus fell to nino. If I would have lost init or if Seamus was a little more back, that game would have gone to the wire.

The third game was against Brian. We had the same list except I took a witchling instead of 3 death marshals, and it made all the difference (not really but it sounds cool) The turning point as paperbagfox said was when his nino shot my perdita. I had my nino take out his (the imposter) nino. The center of the board was open for the most part, and I was able to cut down his units as they came to me after that. Brian was very fun to play, and it was another very good game.

Thank you all for the warm welcome, and I hope I can make it up there again. I know that I won't be at the top spot again, but I will try to keep you all on your toes.

BTW: Paradox it was great meeting you also.

ALSO a BIG thank you to Nerd for running the event!:cheer2:

I'm sure that I need to edit this for spelling.

[paperbagfox]

Here is what I ran for the games,

Game 1 vs. Luke. I took Perdita, Papa Loco, Nino, Samael, and a Death Marshal. Used Papa for what he is .... a BOMB, took out three Marshals in one turn with help from Nino. Nino took out Nino with one action (trigger of Trigger Happy helps). Perdita took out Justice with some help from Samael. Jumped on the Claim and that was game.

Game 2 vs. Mike. Like the first I took Perdita, Samael, Nino, and this game I took 3 Witching Stalkers. Mike used the Hag (first time playing against her and the first Mike played her). The game was run, Mike used Conduit on Nino, which in turn took out Samael by him self. Perdita made the snowman and made him run away, then took out Bad Juju. After that is was back and forth. Mike thanks again for the game, I ended up taking her as one of my boxes.

Game 3 vs. Gary (Fool). As stated above I took Perdita, Sam, Nino, 3 Marshals. Even till turn 3 when I lost my Nino and thats when it all changed. Great game thanks again Fool, it was nice to end the day with that game.

Nerd thanks again for the day of fun.

[Neutralyze]

guild? perdita? who would of though :p

[nerdelemental]

:)

I hear they're the Legion of Guild-blight.

[Neutralyze]

:)

I hear they're the Legion of Guild-blight.

no wayz!

so can you breakdown the players turnout and place so i can evaluate?

thanks!

[nerdelemental]

Here's the ranking!

1. Fool playing Guild with Lady J and Perdita lists
2. paperbagfox - Guild with Perdita (and a Sonnia list once?)
3. Steiner - Arcanist with Ramos
4. jmp_mydog - Resurrectionists - ran Seamus every list, I think
5. Chuck - Guild with Lady Justice throughout IIRC
6. Godspeed - ran Res with Seamus all day. No, McMourning at least once with a beefcake flesh golem conversion.
7. Casto - Arcanists with Rasputina spamming tons of pillars.
8. Jeff - Mr.hobbito - Guild.
9. MBowsher - Neverborn. Ran all three masters. Zoraida for the first time at the event, I hear.
10. Luke Bowsher - Guild

[paradox]

Hmmm... 5 out of 10 players prefer Guild. Good thing I wasn't there to tip the scales! :P

[Fool]

Here's the ranking!

1. Fool playing Guild with Lady J and Perdita lists
2. paperbagfox - Guild with Perdita (and a Sonnia list once?)
3. Steiner - Arcanist with Ramos
4. jmp_mydog - Resurrectionists - ran Seamus every list, I think
5. Chuck - Guild with Lady Justice throughout IIRC
6. Godspeed - ran Res with Seamus all day. No, McMourning at least once with a beefcake flesh golem conversion.
7. Casto - Arcanists with Rasputina spamming tons of pillars.
8. Jeff - Mr.hobbito - Guild.
9. MBowsher - Neverborn. Ran all three masters. Zoraida for the first time at the event, I hear.
10. Luke Bowsher - Guild
11. Paradox - no show

Fixed it for you:poke:

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

The Guild do seem to be the favorite faction in most parts...

I'm glad I like 'em all (read as Neverborn).

Muahahaha

[Godspeed]

I like them all...Guild is nice, Lady J is a bit boring for me, but I miss my Perdita and Sonnia. Good thing this game is 1/4 the price of PP and I see 5x as many games...perhaps owning multiple factions is doable for a change :D Next up, Zoraida.

[paradox]

Fixed it for you:poke:
Real life > gaming. :flame: