Let's talk about the Nurse

[dboeren]

I'm considering getting a McMourning crew. I like him. I like Sebastien, even though I'll have to proxy the dogs for now. I like the Flesh Golem. I'm unconvinced that I really have a use for two Nurses.

They look like support models. They don't fight well, and most of their abilities work on friendly models. Also, some of them kill my friendly models. Am I really going to need a lot of those actions, enough to spend 10ss on it?

Am I missing something or is one Nurse plenty to set up a few dog-missiles or heal McMourning if he runs into trouble? Then I can spend the 5 points I save on other models.

I'm thinking that if I'm planning to turn my models into disposable cruise missiles I'm probably better off taking cheap stuff like dogs and necropunks over things like Punk Zombies. Does that sound about right? I'll get more tokens out of them and there's no use having extra health on a model that's only going to attack once and die.

Here's a possible list I'm considering for 35ss

McMourning
Bete Noire
Flesh Golem
Sebastien
Nurse
3 Canine Remains
Grave Spirit
+1ss left over

Anyway, let me know what you guys think. Thanks!

[thetang22]

I think the general consensus with most people is that the Nurse is pretty much what you have said. You only really need 1 at lower point games. Maybe at higher point games you could consider a second, but anything smaller is probably better spent elsewhere.

[Werecat]

Yeah, you never really need two nurses, unless maybe you're playing a brawl.

And why are you actually paying for a flesh construct? McMourning has much more... efficient ways of getting them on the field. Who knew a little tiny canine remains had enough body parts to make a flesh construct? :)


But yeah, I take something like this...

Crew Cost: 35/35 Remaining: 0 Soulstones: 6

Name Cost
Dr. Douglas McMourning 6
Sebastian, Morgue Assistant 6
Punk Zombie 5
Nurse 5
Bete Noire 9
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2


Normally I find it a bit difficult to fit in Bete in 35 stones, so I'd probably drop her and one remains, take two more zombies and the Chihuahua.

[Sushicaddy]

Yeah, you never really need two nurses, unless maybe you're playing a brawl.

And why are you actually paying for a flesh construct? McMourning has much more... efficient ways of getting them on the field. Who knew a little tiny canine remains had enough body parts to make a flesh construct? :)


But yeah, I take something like this...

Crew Cost: 35/35 Remaining: 0 Soulstones: 6

Name Cost
Dr. Douglas McMourning 6
Sebastian, Morgue Assistant 6
Punk Zombie 5
Nurse 5
Bete Noire 9
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2
Canine Remains 2


Normally I find it a bit difficult to fit in Bete in 35 stones, so I'd probably drop her and one remains, take two more zombies and the Chihuahua.
but now that we know what she looks like, how can you NOT take bete?

[Werecat]

So true...

[nilus]

but now that we know what she looks like, how can you NOT take bete?

She does look cool, but she is very expensive.

[dboeren]

And why are you actually paying for a flesh construct? McMourning has much more... efficient ways of getting them on the field. Who knew a little tiny canine remains had enough body parts to make a flesh construct? :)

Dr. Douglas McMourning 6
Sebastian, Morgue Assistant 6
Punk Zombie 5
Nurse 5
Bete Noire 9
5xCanine Remains 10

Normally I find it a bit difficult to fit in Bete in 35 stones, so I'd probably drop her and one remains, take two more zombies and the Chihuahua.

You're probably right, I'm new to checking out the Resurrectionists so I don't know the most efficient tricks for popping out Flesh Constructs yet. I do want to keep Bete Noire though, she's one of the things that attracts me to the faction even if there might be a more optimal choice. This isn't Nationals after all! Yeah, I can see that taking her out will let me fit several models in her place but she's just too cool not to take.

Your list looks pretty close to what I'm looking for but I'd really like to get a totem in there so maybe downgrade the Punk Zombie or drop one Caine Remains. Do you think the Chihuahua is a better choice than the Grave Spirit? Thinking about him granting armor to my Flesh Golem seemed pretty useful to me.

[Werecat]

That's a good question. The zombie Chihuahua is really just there to let Mcmourning slice him up for body parts. One attack, cheat for minor damage, gain a body part counter. Then disectly, killing the chihuahua, and netting 4 more body parts. Wham bam, flesh construct. 1 stone into 7 isn't too shabby. BUT, the armor 2 is really rad on a construct. Either option is cool, just drop a remains for whichever one you want.


And honestly, in that list, I might even consider dropping the nurse for another punk zombie. I've never really liked the nurse all that much, so it's no loss to me. But if you like her, then she should work out pretty good for ya.

Let us know how it goes once you give it a spin!

[dboeren]

And honestly, in that list, I might even consider dropping the nurse for another punk zombie. I've never really liked the nurse all that much, so it's no loss to me. But if you like her, then she should work out pretty good for ya.

I was mostly considering the Nurse for three things:

1. She comes in the box. Maybe this is a bad reason and I should just buy individual minis.

2. Turning my Canine Remains into powerful missiles with her drugs

3. Being able to heal McMourning if something goes horribly wrong

Actually, I'm not super-fond of the model so I won't be sad at all to drop both if the consensus is that she's not pulling her weight.

[Persevering1]

At 35SS Scrap with McMourning, I recommend the following:

McMourning (Master)
Mortimer (7SS)
Sebastian (6SS)
x2 Nurse (10SS)
x5 Canine Remains (10SS)
2 Soulstone for pool (turn into Body Parts for McMourning) (2SS)

Here's why:

Deploy three "teams"...

* Mortimer, 2 Canines, Nurse
* Sebastian, 2 Canines, Nurse
* McMourning, Canine (should become Flesh Construct on first turn)

Mortimer and Sebastian both can take a (0) Action to give Companion to one of the their Canines, which then gives Companion to the other Canine in the team. You consistently get three models activated off a single activation, with the option of building more dogs as Corpse Counters/Body Parts become available. The Nurses can then buff the Canines for "dog-bombs" or heal Mortimer and Sebastian as needed.

This build let's you typically take out one or two opposing models with teams that are too large to meet one-on-one (and remember your Canine's debuff of -2 Df on opposing models when two or more Canines are present), but who are fast enough to prevent the opponent from being able to reconsolidate his already deployed and (presumably) moving force.

This does go against the conventional wisdom that one Nurse is enough. This list finds a strong argument for two Nurses because you should be running your two teams in different directions. Also, you will likely need to heal Mortimer or Sebastian while simultaneous creating buffs for your dogs. Always remember that the Nurse, if absolutely necessary, can become a Corpse counter and thus an additional Canine Remains if needed.

Use McMourning to turn his Canine into a Flesh Construct and then rush the two at whatever else you need. McMourning's "Organ Donor" and "Master Surgeon" can typically keep his team alive.

This is a "rush" list, so regardless of Strategy flipped, you need to go kill things. However, it is very fast... don't forget to use Mortimer's "Fresh Meat" spell for additional ground covered (friendly Undead move their Wk towards the target of the spell).

[Werecat]

Yeah, honestly I wish that I had picked up McMourning and the flesh construct seperately.

[dboeren]

Yeah, honestly I wish that I had picked up McMourning and the flesh construct seperately.

And Sebastien I think too, can't forget him!

[Zee]

I think it's worth buying the box unless you're so strapped that you want to forgo the Nurses for other killy models and work later with the support chicas.

I would not keep it in its original form when playing battlebox games, as the 2 Nurses are then liabilities more and helpers less.

[Invader Larb]

I like the nurse a lot, but only feel the need for one. So I bought this Werner Cloke model (which i've always loved): http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=36266

She has been very effective on the table for me.

[jmp_mydog]

Love that model.

[Werecat]

And Sebastien I think too, can't forget him!

Ah, of course! How foolish of me!

[Zee]

Yeah, Seabass is the man when it comes to mowing through the opposition. High damage values make him extremely effective at his job :D

[Werecat]

Yeah, but it also makes Pandora's job SO much easier.

Poor poor Sebastion...

[dboeren]

Yeah, honestly I wish that I had picked up McMourning and the flesh construct seperately.

I went to an online retailer to check, and by the time you get those two and Sebastian separately, you're only saving $5 compared to the starter. Nurses are 2 for $12 and you probably can use one, so it's a decent deal. If you can find another Resurrectionist maybe get one starter and separates and then split the nurses between you. But overall it's not that big a deal.

[Werecat]

Yeah, that is true. The boxed sets tend to be a really fantastic deal.

[mbowsher76]

I am really considering switching to Ressurectionists and McMourning looks like he would be my favorite.