Bete Noire: what does she look like?

[Werecat]

So, I've been looking into possible proxy models until the correct ones come out. I've got the Canine Remains and Mindless Zombies pegged easy, but I really want to find a proxy for Bete. So, can any of you Wyrd guys give me a general idea of what she looks like? Any general direction would be greatly appreciated!

[Sushicaddy]

I assumed it was her on Pg. 89 of the rulebook. But I may be wrong, may be a as yet unkown Res master.

[Werecat]

I thought that might be the case as well, but wanted some confirmation :)

[Angus Khan]

AFAIK, none of the artwork in the book is of actual characters... more just "some random schmuck in Malifaux". Stats for a female Res master (like the pic mentioned above) were tossed around a while back, there's a thread around here somewhere...

Back on topic: I am thinking of using the Freebooter female assassin as a Bete Noir proxy:

http://www.freebooterminiatures.de/shop/shop_files/img_3/ASS003_1.jpg

I might do a little conversion work and add some mist/shadows/etc.. around her for sort of a "one with night"/ghostly phantom theme.

[Werecat]

Nice! That would work. I was also thinking of the deathwalker that comes with Goreshade from Warmachine. No knives, but very undead. Then again, I'd have to mess with bits ordering it...

[Werecat]

Also, follow up question: Can anyone who has a solid understanding of linguistics fill me in on how to pronounce Bete Noire? ;)

[orius]

bete noire looks like liquid smoke awesomness wrapped up in pure unadulterated magnificience!

[PhoenixEnvy]

Also, follow up question: Can anyone who has a solid understanding of linguistics fill me in on how to pronounce Bete Noire? ;)

"bet new-R" is the easiest way to get close using English syllables.

In theory, this link (http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?beten01w=bete+noire) will play it for you as an audio file.

Also, if not painted like a vampire, Lenora from Gamezone might make a good choice. I feel like she should have some flowiness, but be distinctly female and inhuman at the same time. I might even go for something a little more bestial if there's something out there with flowing robes and claws.

http://images.frpgames.com/products/product_47215.jpg

[nilus]

Angus,

Consider that proxy idea stolen :). Was just thinking about if I wanted to use her in the tourney coming up and I was trying to figure out what model to use.

[Haight]

"bet new-R" is the easiest way to get close using English syllables.

In theory, this link (http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?beten01w=bete+noire) will play it for you as an audio file.

Also, if not painted like a vampire, Lenora from Gamezone might make a good choice. I feel like she should have some flowiness, but be distinctly female and inhuman at the same time. I might even go for something a little more bestial if there's something out there with flowing robes and claws.

http://images.frpgames.com/products/product_47215.jpg



Bete Noire is french for Black Betty isn't it ?

And it's escaping me at the moment, but Black Betty is a cultural reference to .... something. .... in america, isn't it?

I may be off base with either / both of those there, but my spidey sense is tingling. :D


Love the freebooter proxy, btw! May have to pick one of those up for use in my leve lists for Bete!



Just checked - its french for "black beast".


I know its unlikely, but i hope that the concept art of the pale ressi chick behind the grave in the book ends up being black betty. I think that would be somehow fitting rather than a slavering rotting monster. :) More like a serial killer born of nightmares rather than a monster. :)

[redstripe]

Calling Bete Noire Black Betty was a bit of an in joke for a while. Noire means dark or black and Bete visually looks a lot like the word Betty.

In reality Bete means "beast" in french and so together the words might be "Dark Beast." That is the literal interpretation of the words but the phrase, according to Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bete+noire) means:

bête noire



–noun, a person or thing especially disliked or dreaded; bane; bugbear.

[B]Origin:
1835–45; < F: lit., black beasthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png

It can often mean a dark thought or sinister idea, as well.

[Werecat]

From Wikipedia:

"
"Black Betty" (Roud 11668 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roud_Folk_Song_Index)) is a 20th century African-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American) work song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_song) often credited to Huddie "Lead Belly" Ledbetter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_Belly) as the author, though the earliest recordings are not by him. Some sources claim it is one of Lead Belly's many adaptations of earlier folk material;[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-0) in this case an 18th century marching cadence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_(music)) about a flint-lock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint-lock) rifle.

The origin and meaning of the lyrics are subject to debate. Some sources claim the song is derived from an 18th century marching cadence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_song) about a flint-lock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint-lock) musket with a black painted stock; the "bam-ba-lam" lyric referring to the sound of the gunfire. Soldiers in the field were said to be "hugging Black Betty". In this interpretation, the rifle was superseded by its "child", a rifle with an unpainted walnut stock known as a "Brown Bess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Bess)".[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-6)
The earliest meaning of "Black Betty" in the United States (from at least 1827) was a liquor bottle.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-8) In January 1736, Benjamin Franklin published The Drinker's Dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drinker%27s_Dictionary) in the Pennsylvania Gazette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Gazette_(newspaper)) offering 228 round-about phrases for being drunk. One of those phrases is "He's kiss'd black Betty."[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-9)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-10)
David Hackett Fischer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hackett_Fischer), in his book Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America (Oxford University Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University_Press), 1989), states that "Black Betty" was a common term for a bottle of whiskey in the borderlands of northern England/southern Scotland, and later in the backcountry areas of the eastern United States.
In an interview[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty#cite_note-11) conducted by Alan Lomax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Lomax) with a former prisoner of the Texas penal farm named Doc Reese (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doc_Reese&action=edit&redlink=1) (aka "Big Head (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Head&action=edit&redlink=1)"), Reese stated that the term "Black Betty" was used by prisoners to refer to the "Black Maria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddywagon)" — the penitentiary transfer wagon."



So, not anything that would be specifically associated with Bete Noire. But I fully support the nic-name of black betty. We might as well get the weirdo nicnames in this game like Junior, Abel, Gaspy, all that good stuff :)

[Nathan Caroland]

Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year.

[Angus Khan]

Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year.

Looking forward to it! :D

@Nilus: Glad you liked the proxy suggestion... there has always been something I liked about that mini.

[Haight]

Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year.


Sweet! She's one of my more highly anticipated models to see (and i feel confidant saying i'm not alone there). :)

[Werecat]

Aw, come on Nathan! Not even a measly, teeny tiny bone thrown our way? The brutality! :)

[Zee]

The Lass might be a good proxy if painted all Undead like ;)

[junkenstein]

Whoo-oh black Betty wham a lam...

[nilus]

Whoo-oh black Betty wham a lam...

Anyone else think of that movie Kung-Pow when they here this song.

[gru6y]

I think of NFS:U2 ;)
And as a matter of fact was murmuring the song when read junkenstein's post.
Creepy.

[ork56]

if she is an undead type lady, how about the Freebooter 'Undead Lady' as a variation on a theme from the belles?

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/UNT001_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php%3FxProd%3D2077&usg=__cGXj33wtnIJhYgAEKrWfSNtAomw=&h=400&w=300&sz=40&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=J4RnDhF0c8gjNM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfreebooter%2Bundead%2Blady%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG

[Caronte]

I will wait for the wyrd model :), but if someone want to use a proxi, here is another option:

http://privateerpress.com/iron-kingdoms/miniatures/umbral-sorcerer-infernal-umbral-reaver

[goblyn13]

if she is an undead type lady, how about the Freebooter 'Undead Lady' as a variation on a theme from the belles?

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/UNT001_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php%3FxProd%3D2077&usg=__cGXj33wtnIJhYgAEKrWfSNtAomw=&h=400&w=300&sz=40&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=J4RnDhF0c8gjNM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfreebooter%2Bundead%2Blady%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG

The only bad thing is that the Freebooter undead lady :

The miniature consists of 5 parts and has a total height of 42 mm. She's a bit too big.

[Morodant]

Actually mes amis, bete noire means: black beast

[EricJ]

I heard a rumor a photo of her may have been sighted in the next Wyrd Chronicles :D

[Angus Khan]

I heard a rumor a photo of her may have been sighted in the next Wyrd Chronicles

Looking forward to it! :D

[Sushicaddy]

w00t!

[thetang22]

I heard a rumor a photo of her may have been sighted in the next Wyrd Chronicles :D

When and where is this rumored Chronicle to be found?

[Werecat]

Yeah, what is this wyrd chronicles?

[TheBugKing]

Yeah, what is this wyrd chronicles?

From the home page. Left Column:
http://wyrd-games.net/Ezine/Wyrd%20Chronicles%20v1.pdf
http://www.wyrd-games.net/Ezine/Wyrd%20Chronicles%20v2.pdf

Enjoy.

[Can Can Range]

hi

I thought it was like the girl who comes out on page 89 of the core book ... :D


bye.

[Werecat]

Nope. I guess it's been stated somewhere that all the characters on the cards and in the art aren't actual game peices, just random folks from Malifaux.

[greenstuff_gav]

Whisper and I were discussing the possibility of converting her recently.. how about using this mini (http://coolminiornot.com/198974) as a base, removing the basket and gun for some Evil looking knives (maybe a Bat'leth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_Star_Trek#Bat.27leth) cut in half?).
And from the description "Shroud of darkness", this usually references big cloaks, so sculpt on a big billowing Spawn-esk cloak something like a Pulp City Hero (http://pulp-city.com/heroes,32.html)...

[gru6y]

Woah, she looks absolutely badass.
Where can I get one?

[IronChief]

I have searched high and low and have found the concept art for the Black Beast:

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Black-Beast-of-Aauuugh-monty-python-380157_800_441.jpg

Arrrrgh

[Talishko]

They actually work great with nurses, little creatures you can overdose with Stimulants :D

The Bete Noire is a unique model who is really her own thing, although she may look like a bad-ass Belle mainly due to the fact she's an ass kicking undead female, but rules-wise she is really very different and distinct.

In the future though, look for some more "special" Belles...in future books :)

I've just found this in an older thread, hope it helps... :P
(Or was it well known fact for all but me?)

[Werecat]

Hey, that's new to me! Good find!

[darkendlight]

Back to an earlier message when is the next instalment of the magazine showing up?

[Nathan Caroland]

Next week.

After the new website is up.

[Talishko]

Next week.

After the new website is up.

You guys really are busy... New releases, new website, new Chronicle, new releases, regulating the new releases, stocking up the suppliers and more new releases.
Good job there, we all appreciate it. :vb_cheers

[Werecat]

Yay for new websites!

[Thrall_Love]

Next week.

After the new website is up.
Ooo, this is exciting.