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zombiesatemygoldfish
09-10-2009, 12:39 AM
If I have seamus use the face of death, while standing next to sybelle and someone tries to charge seamus, would they have to take 3 wp checks? 1 for going into the spell aura and 1 for charging seamus and 1 for going into melee range with sybelle?

StormHalo
09-10-2009, 03:03 PM
That's a darn good question.

I seem to remember the book saying something about only ever needing to pass 1 WP test per character per activation...but I could most certainly be wrong...it's happened several times before.

AoM
09-10-2009, 03:31 PM
You only need to take each Wp test once. If 3 different things are causing 3 different Wp/Morale Tests, you're going to have to pass all 3 of them. Aren't all 3 of them different here? Hopefully your opponent can at least charge so that he's outside of Sybelle's melee range to avoid her test.

nilus
09-10-2009, 04:54 PM
As I said in another thread.

I believe that Face of Death really just extends Seamus fear Aura. So you would only need to make that check once. If you end your activation in Sybells melee range you will have to make that one as well I believe.

Zee
09-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Well, if it extended his aura, it would have said so more specifically. I think it's simply another aura of terror that stacks with his inbuilt one.

Keltheos
09-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Actually, unless Eric comes in and drops the countermand-hammer, it was supposed to extend his Terrifying range, not double the tests.

AoM
09-10-2009, 05:15 PM
2 test, 3 tests, either way. if the aura just extends the range, and you end up in both the aura and Sybelle's melee range, you're taking 2 tests, as they are separate effects.

zombiesatemygoldfish
09-10-2009, 05:16 PM
but isn't it a different value of terror than seamus's, and the card if i'm remembering correctly doesn't mention anything about extending his terror just has symbols saying that the spell creates a 4" aura of terror 14.

Kealios
09-10-2009, 05:46 PM
Ive always read it as bumping up his Terror 12 (range 1") to Terror 14 (range 4"). Its not two Terrifyings, but rather 1 big nastier one. I've been wrong before, however!

hannibal
09-10-2009, 06:22 PM
Huh, yeah. I'd read it that way too. I always figured that once a model made one Terrifying test then he could engage the Terrifying model, no matter how many spells/effects were stacked on the terrifying model.

That make sense? My reading was that while it might be possible to have 2 Terrifyings on a model (one going out to 4" and one going out to 1") that one Morale Duel took care of both of them.

unwieldysquig
09-10-2009, 07:48 PM
I've always assumed it to replace his regular terrifying. Since its a higher rating than his regular one it just feels odd to have the lesser one in effect at the same time.

Then again as a dedicated Red Chapel player who am I to argue? I'll happily force another WP test on my playthings.