Ip 6, Rd 4 Results !

[supervike]

Dun du du daaaa!!!


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Right to it, what a fantastic round, yet again!

The elite eight is about to be pared down.


Winner is in RED.

Loser, (sorry so harsh) you know the drill.

Peterdita 62.5 vs. Beelzebrush 68
Bexley 70 vs. Darklord 66.5
Moavoamoatu 65 vs. Brushmistress 70.5
Bren 69.5 vs. Paintminion 70

These are the UNOFFICIAL results! I've double checked them, and they appear right, but this do not become official until after I've posted all the ballots.

Breakdown to follow.

[Beelzebrush]

Cheers Jim

Bad luck Pete! I thought your entry was great!

Whew! lowest scorer again.... I need to get lessons I reckon lol

Congrats all!

[Bren]

Man that was close!!!
Well, congrats to Paintminion, I'll send you a PM! And ofcourse congrats to all the other winners as well.

[Hinton]

Congrats everyone.

[Moavoamoatu]

Congrats to all the winners. Brushmistress you deserve your victory, your entry was my favourite. Just PM me your PP address and tell me how you paint such a nice and smooth OSL.

At least I am so glad : I am free from IP and I could do something else.

Good luck for those who stay in.

[supervike]

breakdown....(git jiggy wid it)




Best in Theme:

Paintminion 19.5
Bexley 17.5
Peterdita 17

Best in Technique AKA as the Your name must begin with a 'B' award

Bren 19
Brushmistress 19
Beelzebrush 17
Bexley 17

Best Overall aka, your name must begin with a 'b' part two

Brushmistress 36.5
Bren 35.5
Bexley 35.5

High Score aka Welcome to the 70's!

Brustmistress 70.5
Bexley 70
Paintminion 70

Biggest Margin of Victory (I vill crush you!)

Beelzebrush by 5.5 over Peterdita
Brushmistress by 5.5 over Maovoamoatu

Smallest Margin of Victory (squeak by!)

Paintminion .5 over Bren


Lowest in Theme

Moavoamoatu 14.5 DESPITE BEING THE ONLY MOVIE RELATED SCENE!!!!!
Bren 15
Brush (I still think theme is for suckers) Mistress 15

[Bren]

(I'm a bit ashamed to admit this, but...)

@ Moa: actually I feel a bit the same about being able to do something else again.. I have been painting so much lately that I feel a bit sick about it. So we decided to change our garden last weekend and I'm glad I have some time to help my BF without feeling the need to paint something. It was fun so far and next year I'll be in again, but I did learn something: it takes a lot of time!

[Brushmistress]

That's right...theme is still for suckers! Congrats to all the other winners! This was one heck of a round with tough decisions that left me not envying the judges.

[Darklord]

congrats to the winners especially bexley. pm me your details.

[Moavoamoatu]

That's right...theme is still for suckers! Congrats to all the other winners! This was one heck of a round with tough decisions that left me not envying the judges.


Lowest in Theme

Moavoamoatu 14.5 DESPITE BEING THE ONLY MOVIE RELATED SCENE!!!!!

I can't understand why I get the lowest theme score as I was the only one to respect the movie theme this round......at least I can do something else now.

Jim, don't bother with theme next round : just say "purple", or "fire" or "metal" that's enough :D

[PaintMinion]

Congrats to the other winners, aka the "B"s....I'm feeling a bit lonely being the only "P" to move on, though. I'm dreading the next round, too...really thought that would go the other way and I'd be the one done and have time to do other stuff! I'm still working on getting my stuff done for Reaper Con! So Bren, I am still jealous of your talent and of your future free time. Go enjoy your garden while I convince my hubby that he gets to do all the planting next week...

To the "B"s, well, sigh....somehow I'll be ready for ya! Let's go!

[Brushmistress]

Lowest in Theme

Moavoamoatu 14.5 DESPITE BEING THE ONLY MOVIE RELATED SCENE!!!!!

I can't understand why I get the lowest theme score as I was the only one to respect the movie theme this round......at least I can do something else now.

Jim, don't bother with theme next round : just say "purple", or "fire" or "metal" that's enough :D



Hey- no sad faces Eric - I've run around with the "Theme is for suckers" title for weeks now! I only beat you in theme by .5 a point in that category this round anyway...besides, that's part of the fun of this. You never know what the judges will think of the theme, or your interpretation of it! :flame:

[Moavoamoatu]

Hey- no sad faces Eric -

Not sad at all, just surprised. Why bothering with a movie theme as I wrote before. To be honest your entry was better than mine...I like contests like IP, that's fun and you meet friends and make new ones but I have so many other things to do......back to my pirates.

[Ritual]

@Moavoamoatu
As I said in the comment that Jim hasn't posted yet, in my eyes the theme is NOT the movie, but the words. The movie CAN help you, as often the movie will have strong connections with the words in the title, i.e. the theme (at least the movies Jim chose from for the themes). But, in your case, Eric, you chose a scene that didn't have much to do with the actual theme. I considered scoring even lower, but in the end I gave you the score I did because you made an effort to depict something from the film, even though I thought it wasn't in accordance with the theme.

[Bexley]

Dammit! I have to do this again!?

I mean... um... hey, cool, I won!

Which is saying something. I was really freakin' worried about this round, since I did so much that was new, and went a little off-base with the theme. I thought it would be closer.

[TheBugKing]

@ Moa,
I too scored you lower because there was no fire in the scene. I did give you a decent score though as you did use the movie. I just felt that you would have done better if you had chosen to pick a scene out of the movie that did involve fire.

[Moavoamoatu]

@Moavoamoatu
As I said in the comment that Jim hasn't posted yet, in my eyes the theme is NOT the movie, but the words.

Now I understand what you mean but it was not my point of view when I made the different entries and if I were a judge I would judge both words and movie and if both can be found in the entry that would be a great bonus (it was not my case, no fire at all as I wanted to avoid OSL). I always tried to fit the movie theme more than the "words" theme except when I didn't have the miniatures for it (such as Full metal jacket) or when I didn't find out which movie it was (such as psycho because the title is different in french).

But as I wrote before I feel free now and that's a real Deliverance ...BTW that's a John Boorman movie title : next theme may be, at least for me.

[demonherald]

Go Jess Go Jess Go ess Go Jess..........:cheer2:

some great stuff by all this time round again...

I'm in the same thought as TBK on this one Moa .. Kudos for going for the film tie in and producing one of the first decent looking caeman scenes I've come across but a bit of the movie with fire may have helped a lot ..

no losers anywhere for me this round will be interesting seeing the break downs and comments for these lot....

[Moavoamoatu]

@ Moa,
I too scored you lower because there was no fire in the scene. I did give you a decent score though as you did use the movie. I just felt that you would have done better if you had chosen to pick a scene out of the movie that did involve fire.

I wanted too but last time I tried OSL someone asked me what was the yellow splash on the wall. My only option was to set the diorama on fire but I would have to be quick to take the pictures ;)

[Peterdita]

Grats folks! What a contest! That was quite the mini painting binge! 2 months of intense madness. I didn't ever expect to get so far and deep into this. I'm flattered in all your comments and scores.

Thank you to all the contestants. Thanks to all the house and guest judges. Thanks to Jimbo for all the work of keeping this going. I had a lot of fun. Met some great new friends and mentors, and can't wait to see how you suckers have to finish this out. Good luck.

Great stuff everyone, keep pushing yourselves and each other. See you all in TT/FF, and if I forget how iron crazy this was, maybe IP7...

...off to to paint whatever I want now, :P

[supervike]

I was shocked by that judge score as well Moa....I can sympathize.

Bexley, you know I loved your entry, as I've mentioned, but I thought you were in trouble this round as well. It's the first time I thought you may have trouble with the judges. Glad they proved me wrong, however.

That's what I love about this contest. People HAVE to take risks to advance. Sometimes it doesn't work, sometimes it does....

Actual ballots will be up next. Give me a few minutes.

[supervike]

Ritual:
Beelzebrush
Theme: 4.5
Technique: 3.5
Overall: 8.5
Comment: A very "free-thinking" and original idea for the theme! I like how you pulled it off too. The atmosphere is great. I do think the sculpting of the flames could be a little more flame-like, and the blending on the jacket, or blouse or whatever it is, is a bit rough in places.

Bexley
Theme: 5
Technique: 4
Overall: 9
Comment: Clever idea! Totally unexpected! I like how you've built and painted the setting. Very good craftsmanship. I don't like the tentacles that much, though. They look a bit Ed Wood-ish, if you see what I mean? Something about them makes them look un-organic and rather like something made of paper or something. But the rest of the scene is great, and in a way the look of the tentacles lends a certain b-movie feeling to it that certainly has its charm.

Peterdita
Theme: 4.5
Technique: 3.5
Overall: 7.5
Comment: A funny idea and quite unexpected, as well. While you need the explanation to get the full story, you can still read the gist of it by just looking at the miniatures and the scene and that gains you a little extra from me. My biggest critique of this piece is how the big bushes/small trees look compared to the other vegetation. They are a bit too vivid, a bit too uniform in colour and also, the stems are as green as the leaves are, which makes them look less like trees and more like giant weed. If you'd given these a bit of paint and a bit of variation in colour you could have tied them in better with the rest of the scene and also made them more believable as trees or saplings or similar.

Darklord
Theme: 4.5
Technique: 4
Overall: 8.5
Comment: A rather straigh-forward theme ingredient, but it is also a very strong theme interpretation, as far as I'm concerned. It is ambitious and it is well pulled off. The ground work is perhaps a bit uninspired, but on the other hand... you'd think the ground near a dragon's lair would be rather barren, wouldn't you? The slight OSL effect works very nicely and looks natural. Maybe that some of the texture and detail on the dragon could have been emphasised a bit more.

PaintMinion
Theme: 5
Technique: 4
Overall: 8
Comment: This one made me laugh! It feels like very typical hobitt behaviour... And it also shows how the courage that hobitts do have comes to good use! Technically well done too, but I am not that keen on the rather stark, black shadows on the dragon. I think they should have been softened and blended better. I really love the way you did the grilled marshmallows! They look just right.

Moavoamoatu
Theme: 3
Technique: 4
Overall: 8.5
Comment: I know you took this idea out of the film after which the theme was named. But, I still don't think this is a strong interpretation of the THEME. The theme is NOT the film, per se. Sometimes going by the film connections can lead to strong theme interpretations because the films themselves connect to the concept of the theme. This particular scene, however, has nothing to do with fire so in my eyes there is very little connection between this diorama and the theme of this round. That being said, it's a very well done diorama, and I like more or less everything about it.

Bren
Theme: 4.5
Technique: 5
Overall: 9.5
Comment: People seemed to doubt how well you'd score on theme this round, but as far as I'm concerned, this is a really clever idea. I immediately got the idea that they had all these eggs and were looking for a place to cook them. At most, I think you can argue that the idea is strange, and that could theoretically mean that YOU are strange... ;) But, there's nothing wrong with the idea and I love the whimsical and cute nature of it. The ground work is extremely well done. And, of course, the painting is not that bad either... Well done!

Brushmistress
Theme: 3.5
Technique: 5
Overall: 9
Comment: This is very, very well made and you've created a very powerful ambience here. I'm not sure about the "quest" part of the theme. There's fire, obviously, but I'm not sure why and I see no connection to any quest. Not even after reading the description. So, not that high points on theme here, I'm afraid. But, you get very high scores on all the rest. And we all know that theme is for suckers! :)

TheBugKing

I've been really harsh with my critiques.
I'm rather certain that the lot of you know most of what I say to begin with and most of the issues I bring up are due to time issues over lack of will or ability.

I also figured that you all would rather hear my honest opinions as opposed to a bunch of "Great" here is a 3.5 with out more of an explanation.

Bexly
4
4.5
8.5
It took me reading through the comments to catch the pun finally. Kudos on the great idea.

Your technique is near flawless as usual. I think you missed some opportunity with the larger scale figures however.

I like the subtle weathering on the siding. I would have liked to see you touch up the white showing through where the static grass mat is glued down. Mrs. Feier's right arm transitions rather oddly. It looks as though you cut the arm off, repositioned and only greenstuffed the join. It would have been nice if you had sculpted the fabric a bit so it fell more naturally.

PaintMinion
4.5
4
8
Very amusing take on the theme.

The execution is very well done. The paint on the dragon's horns is a bit rough. It would have been nice to see some more color layering and strata painted into the rocks. Also where the tall spire meets the "buttress" in front of the dragon looks like it received less work then the rest of the stone.

I like the OSL work a lot. It imparts a very natural looking glow to the piece. I'm not certain that the flame is shaded correctly as flames are usually brightest / blue towards the fuel source and go black towards the end tips. However who is to say that a dragon's flame would behave that way. I love the marshmallows and the dwarf's cap and mit. I think the stone could have been much more convincting with some white and yellow strata lines painted in (Very common for metamorphic rock) as well as some sage green or dark green (Depending on your locale) to hint at vegetation. Lichen and the like grows in the shadows on rocks even in extremely arid locations.


Darklord
3.5
4
7.5
I see the use of fire and a quest but I don't really see the "Quest for Fire" here.

The execution of this piece seems the be a bit lower then usual. Perhaps it is the large open areas of the dragon's skin that is giving me that impression. I am not sure. The knight looks excellent however.

This whole scene seems like something of a mismatch to me. I think if you had reposed the second head so that it was looking at the knight so that the focus remained on their interaction it would have helped the composition quite a bit. It also would have been nice to see some variation in the ground level. It really doesn't take much to add a small piece of foam core to add a bit of visual interest and realism. It's often not noticed by people but the very flat nature of adding ballast to wood is immediately noticeable. The OSL on the knights shield is great. There is a noticeable glow on the ground but the light source falls off before it gets to the dragon's belly or the second head. Finally, while it is not part of the piece in any real way, the cropping of the photo is very distracting. I did my best to ignore it and I hope that I have succeeded in not letting it effect my feelings about the piece.


Peterdita
5
3.5
8

Excellent and very humorous take on the theme. My personal favorite.

I like the paint jobs on the gremlins. The conversions are executed well with the exception of the Red Eyed Rasta. You would have been well served to clean the hands a bit more because the remains of the conversion are easily seen against the mighty joint. I like the color choice and composition.

Over all this piece is great. The primary focus is the joint and everything going on around it. I would have liked to see actual paint on the vegitation however. It looks out of place being completely natural. Also, the rocks in the corner should really have had paint applied to them. I very much like the subtle variation in ground level and the fence is executed well.


Beelzebrush
4
5
9
I got the Quest for Fire from the description and not really from the piece. However it does appear to be a summoning of fire so it fits.

The OSL here is absolutely excellent. The floor is done in a very natural and convincing way. The cast shadow is also amazing. WOW.

I have very few issues with the piece over all. There is a bit of clean up that could nave been done around the base and the top of the painting would have benefited from a touch more blue paint. Again, the OSL is amazing. It only suffers a bit on the walls as the edges are not as soft as they are on the painting and they should be. If anything they should be a touch softer as the wall is slightly further away. The composition of the piece is great. The eye does not wander off the piece and is drawn about to the various focal points.


Moavoamoatu (Spelled Correctly!)
4.5
4
8.5

The only piece that used the movie as it's reference. Nice. I would have liked to see a scene with fire actually in it. There were certainly several to choose from. A small gripe however.

Your painting skill is still slightly behind the curve. The caveman next to the tree suffers from some rough blending. The bear's fur also looks shiny, and while that is certainly a look that people go for it looks odd next to the flat surfaces on the rest of the piece. The rock substrate execution suffers a bit from the "I cut these rocks with a knife" look. The Stalagmites and Stalactites look great with the exception of one on the floor in the cave mouth. There is a noticeable gap at ground level which makes it look like it was stuck on as an after thought.

Over all I think the composition of the piece is really well done. There is a lot going on and the eye gets drawn about as the story unfolds. The vegetation is done in a convincing way and the painting of the natural elements is well done.


Brushmistress
3.5
5
9

I can see the quest elements here with Malifaux being 1 km away. I don't understand how this is a Quest FOR fire though. I do like the fact that Bishop is burning up though! Great!!

Execution wise there is really not much to fault here. Your OSL work is really impressive. There is only one area on the piece that seems unnatural. Right under the hand holding the flame the shadow looks very dark. I can't tell if that is an element of the photography or not though. In terms of the base, the execution is again excellent. My only real beef (And it's again minor) is that you used a twig with bulges at the joints. It still looks like a twig and not a tree in scale.

Over all another truly solid entry. The composition of the piece is really over the top. There is a huge amount going on in a very small piece. The danger (?) represented by Ghost Bishop a scant 1km from Malifaux tells a story, especially with the interest the vulture has in his actions. I love it!


Bren
3
4.5
8

Thematically you basically miss here. You know that though and at least there is a hint of the theme in the elements of the piece.

I find the pose of the main figure jarring. Why isn't she falling over? It very well could be a function of the pose of the piece but she just looks like she got smacked in the face with a 2x4… The crow holding the spoon would have benefited from having his beak converted to be slightly open so he doesn't look like someone drilled a hole and inserted the spoon. Your painting execution is excellent as always. There really isn't much to fault there and the humor evident in the gathering is great.

Over all there is a great story going on here. The prize at the end of the road is some wonderful scrambled eggs! Every one looks very excited to be going on this trip and I want in on the party too! The eye is drawn about the piece in a natural way and each animal has a bit of a different feel.

Frustrated Father

Bexley
Theme: 4
Technique: 4
Overall: 9


Brushmistress
Theme: 3.5
Technique: 4.5
Overall: 9


Bren
Theme: 4
Technique: 4.5
Overall: 9


Moavoamoatu
Theme: 3
Technique: 3.5
Overall: 8.5


Paintminion
Theme: 5
Technique: 4
Overall: 9


Darklord
Theme: 4.5
Technique: 4
Overall: 8.5


Peterdita
Theme: 3.5
Technique: 3.5
Overall: 8


Beelzebrush
Theme: 4
Technique: 4
Overall: 8

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Awesome job folks, these just keep blowing my mind and the variation of interpretation on the themes is always a hoot!

EricJ

Beelzebrush
theme: 4
technique: 4.5
overall: 9
Notes: Really nice result here, the OSL is wonderful and the scene really works and your painting style fits it perfectly.

Bexley
theme: 4.5
technique: 4.5
overall: 9
Notes: Very clever interpretation of the theme, I like it, and your painting is of course always a very high level, great result here

Peterdita
theme: 4
technique: 3.5
overall: 8
Notes: Nice little scene you’ve created here, although the painting looks like it could have been a bit cleaner with more highlights, either that or the photo is a bit too dark.

Darklord
theme: 4
technique: 4.5
overall: 9
Notes: Very nice work overall, the OSL is done really well and adds to the overall result here, this is a huge piece to get done in 2 weeks, impressive!

Paintminion
theme: 5
technique: 4.5
overall: 9
Notes: This one made me laugh more than any other this round, and that gets you a perfect theme score from me, great scene, and of course your brushwork is top of the line as always!

Moavoamoatu
theme: 4
technique: 4.5
overall: 9
Notes: You are the master of creating scenes and you’ve done this one wonderfully! Really nice attention to all the details here.

Bren
theme: 3.5
technique: 5
overall: 9
Notes: Again I think you win the best painting award this round, your brushwork is VERY nice here. The lack of obvious theme hurts you a little, but the overall result is a great scene. Nice work!

Brushmistress
theme: 4.5
technique: 4.5
overall: 9.5
Notes: For me, this is overall the nicest entry this round, the theme is well done in the conversion, the brushwork is awesome from you as usual and the OSL really pops, and the scene works great. Nice work!






PLEASE REPORT ANY SCORING DISCREPANCIES ASAP.... The scores become 'official' once I post the next round....

[Bexley]

@Supervike: Yeah. I had a feeling this was one of those ones where it was going either go over really well or fail completely.

@BugKing (regarding your comments) Hey! I didn't shell out $150 for a Grass Master to be accused of using a grass mat. :P

[TheBugKing]

@BugKing (regarding your comments) Hey! I didn't shell out $150 for a Grass Master to be accused of using a grass mat. :P

Heh.
Sorry, my bad. I thought the masonite base was part of the cardboard backing for a grass mat.

Along that vein, why did you leave that showing??? And what's with the white there as well? You just don't do stuff like that.

(On an aside, you know you can make a static grass gun for about $25 right?)

[Darklord]

i did think i had a chance of taking you down bexley but you came through like a champ! i did however manage my best ever IP score (disregarding TBK) so thats great plus my totals still read: played 11 lost 3 - that'll do me
now i have that post IP feeling of time and space! thanks to all the judges and vikey for great comp.
cheering on beelzebrsuh now for the brits!

and Bexley - until next time!

[Beelzebrush]

Cheers DL! :D

Well, apart from the gobbo entry, which I'm guessing at about 9-10 hours I've spent a max of about 3-4 hours on each entry so far... I think I'm going to need to really up my game for this coming round....


I hope I get Bexley :D






..... or not :D

[TheBugKing]

i did think i had a chance of taking you down bexley but you came through like a champ! i did however manage my best ever IP score (disregarding TBK) so thats great plus my totals still read: played 11 lost 3 - that'll do me
now i have that post IP feeling of time and space! thanks to all the judges and vikey for great comp.
cheering on beelzebrsuh now for the brits!

and Bexley - until next time!

Looks like I might have scored you unjustly low DL.
Sorry about that dude.

Have to crop it up to first IP judging jitters.

I'll have to make it up to you by buying you a drink some time. Enjoy the freedom!

[Brushmistress]

I think I'm going to need to really up my game for this coming round....

Speaking of the next round, are we going to get that today or tomorrow?

[Ritual]

Go ahead and start your entry anyway, Jess. You never care about theme anyway! ;)

[Darklord]

@bug king - i did worry about my basing when i saw it was you!! but i got beaten by a better entry - without your votes i would still have lost anyway so you were in line with the other judges so please dont think you altered the result against me - it was good to have your comments - thankyou

[Brushmistress]

Go ahead and start your entry anyway, Jess. You never care about theme anyway! ;)

LOL - it really looks that way doesn't it? :p: I'm glad you didn't enter IP Ritual - your smack talk is top notch!

[supervike]

Last minute request! If there are no errors mentioned, I'm calling these results official!

I'll begin drawing the new matchups right now.....