more questions about Malifaux

[thetang22]

1. What suits in the standard 52 card deck are associated with which factions?

2. If there a discard pile for used cards, or do they go back to the bottom of the draw deck?

3. Will all the stats for the factions and their characters be located in the standard rule book, or will there be any sort of reference cards in addition to the rule book?

4. It was mentioned that certain minis have X number of actions they can do. Lets say a mini gets 3 actions per round, when it comes to that character's turn in a round do they get to do all 3 consecutively or is there some sort of turn sequence for that?

There was 1 other question I was thinking of while I was driving home that I'm sure I wanted to ask more than anything else, and I can't remember it now.

[absolute_d]

From what I remember - and I'm sure Eric will clarify if I'm wrong.

1 - this info I don't know
2 - there is a discard pile
3 - I was told there will be reference cards for the characters
4 - the models activate, do their actions and end their activation, then your opponent moves one guy, then you move another, alternating until all models have had their activations. So they would do all 3 consecutively.


Oz

[EricJ]

Faction - Faction Suit - Opposed Suit
Guild - Hearts - (depends on the group played, the suit of the faction they hunt)
Resurrectionist - Spades - Hearts
Neverborn - Diamonds - Clubs
Arcanists - Clubs - Diamonds
Mercenaries - none - none


The rest you got right :)

[thetang22]

another thing I have been thinking about:

I've recently gone into terrain building mode for Malifaux, and one of the key pieces of terrain that I don't have any visual reference on is the Breach.

What does the Breach look like? Is it right in the heart of the city of Malifaux, on the outskirts? What about Earthside?

[Hinton]

What does the Breach look like? Is it right in the heart of the city of Malifaux, on the outskirts? What about Earthside?

Currently working on that; should have an answer for you in the near future.

[EDIT]:

What do you think it looks like? I'm really interested in hearing what people see when they imagine it.

[thetang22]

Currently working on that; should have an answer for you in the near future.

[EDIT]:

What do you think it looks like? I'm really interested in hearing what people see when they imagine it.


Is there at least information on whether it is in the heart of the city or on the outskirts?

As for my current visualization, I've only got a few generic ideas such as: some sort of energy arch that has risen from the ground that you just walk through, or possibly even just a clean slit in the air (or maybe a tear in the air). Nothing too groundbreaking from me on that.

[Hinton]

Is there at least information on whether it is in the heart of the city or on the outskirts?


Ok, not going to say that this is set in stone by any means (and it is certainly subject to change), but the Breach is inside the city of Malifaux.

[Nathan Caroland]

For the Breach, think of it as a train depot, heavily guarded, heavily worked, not within the City properly but right there on the outskirts as everything has been built up around this one main focus in Malifaux.

So Brian is right, just wanted to expand upon it a touch.

Also keep in mind that a lot of folks have been seeing stuff in a serious 'Wild West' theme. Keep in mind that is only a PART of the element that we have brought into Malifaux. I have to laugh when people ask me 'so ... what is it?' but then I have to break out my explanation box. It is Weird West, Victoria Gothic Horror with a heavy splash of Steampunk. I'll actually be commissioning some additional terrain in the future in order to get across some of the ideas.

As for the visual, it's still something that we're working on for a visual as we've bounced back and forth on this a few times now as I'm trying to find something that fits for me.

Anything that is Breach related you can be damn sure that if they know about it, the Guild has gotten their hands onto it and have set up a guard detail about it. They want to control any and all Breaches into and out of Malifaux. In the initial Breach, they did, and built up a city around it on both sides. Now, with the latest opening, there are other smaller ones that have opened up as well, and although the Guild has taken and found a majority of them, they haven't managed all as of yet.

I see it more a portal between places, its not 'instant transport', but a hole that has been bored through. If you read the first Ezine you'll pick up on a lot of that. Primarily I'm leaning towards the visual being something akin to a heat haze with occasional flashes of light and color across it and the odd feeling that 'something' is looking back across at you, the occasional shadow that passes by .. etc.

More on that later though as I could spend all day getting creative and I've got a fistful of work to get done right now!

[Keltheos]

Steamvictoriohorrorwestpunk!

[thetang22]

Also keep in mind that a lot of folks have been seeing stuff in a serious 'Wild West' theme. Keep in mind that is only a PART of the element that we have brought into Malifaux. I have to laugh when people ask me 'so ... what is it?' but then I have to break out my explanation box. It is Weird West, Victoria Gothic Horror with a heavy splash of Steampunk. I'll actually be commissioning some additional terrain in the future in order to get across some of the ideas.

That would be awesome! I would love to see some other terrain than the Weird West stuff thats been going on. Granted, the table from Gencon looked fantastic, but my personal opinion is that the Weird West is my least favorite branch of the line. I'm not really into much of the wild west stuff, and while the minis look great, the fluff that goes with that stuff doesn't generally interest me that much.

I'd be very interested to see where the Victorian Gothic and Steampunk influences come into the terrain, because as of yet its hard to imagine much else other than the Weird West since its had such a dominate showing so far. I can't wait to see some more of these ideas come to fruition. Great job on everything so far too.

[Keltheos]

Seamus' idiom lends itself nicely to lots of twisty back streets and darkened side alleys. ;)

[redstripe]

Seamus' idiom lends itself nicely to lots of twisty back streets and darkened side alleys. ;)

I think Seamus and his Belles were inspired, in part, by the legend of Jack the Ripper. I think Seamus is currently one of the strongest elements of a gothic or victorian London element. I feel like there's also a prohibition era New York in there with the illegal trafficking of black-market soulstone and the violent struggle between law enforcement and organized crime.

I think you'll see more of the industrialized and civilized areas of Malifaux develop as a theme, along with the hidden horrors that lurk there just out of sight and the kind of monsters that tip their hats and say "Good evening, ma'am."

[Nathan Caroland]

Can't remember that movie that came out a good bit back ... Streets of New York or maybe it was Gangs of New York would give you a very good feel of things as well from what I remember.

And I'm going to have to copyright that Dan, too good to pass up.

Steamvictoriohorrorwestpunk!

And yes, Seamus is based loosely off of a demented leprechaun and Jack the Ripper. :D

[Keltheos]

I honestly had to use that once to describe it. It's a little bit of everything dark and scary from 'around' that timeframe with a sprinkling of steampunk for good measure.

A Gangs table would look pretty sweet for Mal!

[Nathan Caroland]

Yeah it works pretty well actually. I've had to explain myself over and over and then folks would look at the figures and go 'oooh, yeah, and hell, that actually works and makes sense, how did you manage that?!'.

So yeah, that works as well as anything I must admit. As for additional terrain, yeah, that's on my radar in a serious way, just have to take the time out to contact individuals, put aside time, funds, etc.

[Keltheos]

Horrorvictoriosteamwestpunk for when you want to emphasize the dark side of the setting.
Victoriosteamhorrorwestpunk for when you want to emphasize the top hats!
Westhorrorvictoriosteampunk for the western angle. ;)

[absolute_d]

I think Seamus and his Belles were inspired, in part, by the legend of Jack the Ripper. I think Seamus is currently one of the strongest elements of a gothic or victorian London element. I feel like there's also a prohibition era New York in there with the illegal trafficking of black-market soulstone and the violent struggle between law enforcement and organized crime.

I think you'll see more of the industrialized and civilized areas of Malifaux develop as a theme, along with the hidden horrors that lurk there just out of sight and the kind of monsters that tip their hats and say "Good evening, ma'am."

You been sneakin a look at my notes for the 'Your mission...' thread? Don't make me come after you sir! :P

Oz

[Hinton]

I think you'll see more of the industrialized and civilized areas of Malifaux develop as a theme, along with the hidden horrors that lurk there just out of sight and the kind of monsters that tip their hats and say "Good evening, ma'am."

A lot of the initial attention went with kind of the "Wyrd West" feel (mostly due to a majority of the action was taking place in the "frontier" part of Malifaux), but we're diving more into the actual city of Malifaux, so you'll start seeing more of the "steampunk" and Victorian aspects showing up.

[Keltheos]

People probably get the vibe from the look of the Ortegas and the Death Marshals as well.

[Nathan Caroland]

Well, wait till you see Ramos's finished group. :D

[Hinton]

Love the signature, FF.

:D

[thetang22]

Well, wait till you see Ramos's finished group. :D

I've actually stated in another thread that his group is the one I'm looking forward to the most :) I can't wait to see the Steamborg!

[Keltheos]

Tease!!

[redstripe]

I think we need a steamvictoriohorrorwestpunk t-shirt.

[Keltheos]

Wrap the text all the way around.

[Nathan Caroland]

Could probably accommodate that, have to see what I can do with one of the artists. :D

[absolute_d]

I totally dig the Wyrd West theme, and have been planning out my own little township complete with gallos, wagons and possibly an OK Corral! But I also dig the Victorian side also. There's soooo much to both time periods that you can really get some crazy things going into the fluff.

As Malifaux continues to unfold I'm really looking forward to seeing more.


Oz

[Nathan Caroland]

Consider this though, even in say ... oh the late 1800's, early 1900's, you had your cities, your major thoroughfares such as New York, Chicago .. hell even London with cobblestones and gas lamp lighting. At that same time, head out west, mining towns, railroad company camps ... etc. Very, very different situations, same times.

So, there will most certainly be an overlap so that folks know we're not bouncing around just to be doing it.

[redstripe]

I totally dig the Wyrd West theme, and have been planning out my own little township complete with gallos, wagons and possibly an OK Corral! But I also dig the Victorian side also. There's soooo much to both time periods that you can really get some crazy things going into the fluff.

As Malifaux continues to unfold I'm really looking forward to seeing more.


Oz

The Shoot Out at the Ok Corral took place on October 26, 1881.

Queen Victoria (for whom the Victorian Age is named) is Queen from 1837 till 1901.

They're not different time periods.

The Wild West and the Victorian settings are the same when. The only difference that might distinguish them is that the Wild West describes the frontier and the Victorian Era describes an empowered urban middle class.

Just sayin'.

[absolute_d]

The Shoot Out at the Ok Corral took place on October 26, 1881.

Queen Victoria (for whom the Victorian Age is named) is Queen from 1837 till 1901.

They're not different time periods.

The Wild West and the Victorian settings are the same when. The only difference that might distinguish them is that the Wild West describes the frontier and the Victorian Era describes an empowered urban middle class.

Just sayin'.

You're absolutely correct, my choice of words was um...not exactly perfect. :P

I should have said both settings vs time periods. BAD OZ! :banghead:


Oz

[Huffdogg]

Wrap the text all the way around.

If you swap the positioning of "steam" and "punk" at opposite ends of the word, it will actually wrap around in an infinite loop.

[poisonfrog13]

I am totally loving this thread, gangs of new york has been one of my favorite period movies, since braveheart.

When i think of the word malifaux and I see the mini line and art work as it currently stands I am drawn to it for the same reasons as the previously mentioned movie, however I also see an area that has yet to be mentioned, that the name malifaux creates the image of an ornate victorian mansion sitting off of the edge of town, out in the woods half in a swamp, I mean this literally the first story is water logged as all hell, gators and snakes crawling out of the front door. Its real humid, i mean dank you just get that sent of the moss permeating every breath, aside from that lovely aroma mix in a little bourbon, chartreuse, and absinthe.

You hear chanting coming out across the swamp, see wipperwills in the distance, and just then you hear a rustle in the bushes to the left of the path and out steps a girl in a white slip of a dress. Well, maybe it was at some time long ago, but now its just caked with mud and filth around the edges, and blood deep dark red blood. In her hand shes carrying a blood soaked machete and a heart. shes singing a nonsense song but only to herself. She sees you and her eyes light up, just then two more little girls of about the same image clear the bushes wisperin songs for the queen, they all pickup the tune and sing this dirge that just runs a bit of ice cold sweat down your spine.

It's eerie, this image in front of ya, so off putin' you don't notice the one behind you. She drapes one blood covered arm around your neck and whispers honey laden passages into your ear. You're a bit shocked and cant seem to turn and look at her and she keeps grilling ya with that voice , the scent of her breath is bourbon and candy. Shes definitely older, but not old maybe 18 maybe 33 all you can see is her little blood covered hand and hear her voice in your head.

Something catches your eye on her hand beneath the blood and gore and mud theres a ring not really outstanding, just a ring with a cameo carved into the stone. She just keeps singing to you and you couldn't care bout anythin cept that shes singing to you. The younger girls have started to dance around you, darting in and out of you field of view singin bout the queen. Her voice is smooth, warm , and sweet its deep in your head now, your startin to taste the bourboun and candy. Not just smell it but taste it. you feel that quick burn in the mouth and then the mellow sugar mixed with wood rolls down your throat, and the warmth washes back up.

Now her ring is startin to glow and her hand has even more blood on it fresh blood. the last thing you register as your head folds back on you almost completely truncated neck is this beautiful upside down vision of a dark skinned woman in a southern belles dress, shes smiling and looking at you most comforting , with those glowing eyes as green as chartreuse, and her face painted like a skull.

its a bit rough but thats what i think of when i think of malifaux, the cards, the zombies, the voodoo queen mary laveau she would fit there something fiercely.

sorry if i ramble i just got off of a long day waiting tables

oi oi io
frog

Edited for readability -ericj

[Nightgoblin]

@ Keltheos

You forgot 'Steampunkvictoriowesthorror' for those preferring Steampunk:ahhhhh:...

[thetang22]

i am totally loving this thread, gangs of new york has been one of my favorite period movies , since braveheart. when i think of the word malifaux and i see the mini line and art work as it currently stands i am drawn to it for the same reasons as the previously mentioned movie, however i also see an area that has yet to be mentioned. the name malifaux creates the image of an ornate victorian mansion sitting off of the edge of town. out in the woods half in a swamp, i mean this literally the first story is water logged as all hell , gators and snakes crawling out of the front door. its real humid , i mean dank you just get that sent of the moss permeating every breath , aside from that lovely aroma mix in a little bourbon, chartreuse, and absinthe. you hear chanting coming out across the swamp , see wipperwills in the distance. and just then you hear a rustle in the bushes to the left of the path and out steps a girl in a white slip of a dress, well maybe it was at some time long ago now its just caked with mud and filth around the edges, and blood deep dark red blood. in her hand shes carrying a blood soaked machete and a heart. shes singing a nonsense song but only to herself, she sees you and her eyes light up, just then two more little girls of about the same image clear the bushes wisperin songs for the queen, they all pickup the tune and sing this dirge that just runs a bit of ice cold sweat down your spine, its eerie this image in front of ya, so off putin' you dont notice the one behind you. she drapes one blood covered arm around your neck and wispers honey laden passages into your ear. your a bit shocked and cant seem to turn and look at her and she keeps grilling ya with that voice , the scent of her breath is bourbon and candy. shes definatley older, but not old maybe 18 maybe 33 all you can see is her little blood coverd hand and hear her voice in your head. somethin catches your eye on her hand beneath the blood and gore and mud theres a ring not realy out standing just a ring with a cameo carved into the stone. she just keeps singing to you and you couldnt care bout anythin cept that shes singing to you. the younger girls have started to dance arround you darting in and out of you field of view singin bout the queen. her voice is smooth, warm , and sweet its deep in your head now, your startin to taste the bourboun and candy.. not just smell it but taste it. you feel that quick burn in the mouth and then the mellow sugar mixed with wood rolls down your throat, and the warmth washes back up .. now her ring is startin toglow and her hand has even more blood on it fresh blood. the last thing you register as your head folds back on you almost compleatly truncated neck is this beautiful upside down vision of a darkskinned woman in a southern belles dress, shes smiling and looking at you most comforting , with those glowing eyes as green as chartreuse, and her face painted like a skull.

its a bit rough but thas what i think of when i think of malifaux, the cards , the zombies, the voodoo queen mary laveau she would fit there something fiercely.

sorry if i ramble i just got off of a long day waiting tables

oi oi io
frog


2 words: paragraphs and capitalization


This is one of the first threads I tried to read in the morning and my eyes have only become more glazed over at the lack of paragraphs and correct capitalization at the beginning of sentences. I had a problem with paragraphs a little while back when posting only to find out that the forum doesn't recognize the enter button unless you have javascript turned on. However, this doesn't really look like an accident. Please, for the sake of everyone else trying to read the post, at least attempt paragraphs and correct capitalization.

I read about the first 2 sentences and then just scrolled down to the bottom of the post to get your statement wrap up because the big wall of text was hurting my eyes. I don't mean to sound rude, but it would help everyone out if you didn't make your post a big wall of text without proper capitalization.

Otherwise, I'm glad you enjoy the Malifaux genre, it's got a lot of flavor to it!

[absolute_d]

I have to agree with tang here...specially at the pre-dawn hours here on the west coast. :(

Oz

[thetang22]

The thing of it is - the paragraph is done in the same style as instant messaging and/or text messaging. Those sorts of communication are done without proper structure because they are short cuts for something that is supposed to be quick communication. Anything that is ever written in that style is generally no longer than a sentence or 2, so its easy to read anyway.

Trying to pull that into a huge body of text is just plain wrong. It makes it hard for the viewers to read (and comes off as just being sloppy and/or lazy about your typing in my opinion). We are here on these forums to try and discuss our hobby, so communication is vital. It is appreciated to make your best effort to communicate your ideas in an educated, legible manner.

This is sort of reminiscent of the L337 speak thread from months back:

http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=4030

R.I.P. lolcat, wherever you may be...

[thetang22]

Edited for readability -ericj

Thanks Eric!

[Rorik36]

Edited for readability -ericjYes thanks for the edit.

Now going back through the story I find that is some great imagery. A bayou swamp board would be a great thing to play on with zombies galore. :)

[EricJ]

yeah, I thought it was good enough of a post to actually get read by everyone!

[TheBugKing]

Yes thanks for the edit.

Now going back through the story I find that is some great imagery. A bayou swamp board would be a great thing to play on with zombies galore. :)

Duly noted.

Grin.

This is actually very easy to do. I think adding the mansion to the mix would be a nice addition too.
In fact the imagery in the story would translate to a playable board seamlessly.

I'll have to do some exploratory sketches when I get back in town. (Forgot my sketch book! Total suck!)

[Huffdogg]

I have to agree that the post was difficult enough to read that I simply passed on it. Even the edit is a bit too daunting for me, personally. Not trying to snipe, just offering what I hope is constructive criticism.

[absolute_d]

After the edit I read the froggy post. Nice imagery sir.

oi oi oi


Oz :P

[goblyn13]

I actually have a piece of terrain I'm working on for use with Dr. McMourning and Sebastian to be a bit of a mad scientist lab in a sewer. I'll have to take pictures when i make it back home of the pieces. The way i have it figured, even in the Wild west, there were the frontier towns, but in some of the bigger towns it looks more like some of the old Atlanta.

For terrain ideas, I kinda figured a bit like Brisco County, Jr you have the Wild west for a lot of the smaller towns but in San Francisco, its more brick and mortar, more permanent structures.

[Jabberwocky]

Looking forward to seeing these projects, Goblyn!

[poisonfrog13]

Edited for readability -ericj

My many thanks , just started writing last night and i ended up with a lot more than i anticipated. Thanks to all who commented. Again, ended up with a lot more than i anticipated. My next process is to work this story and setting a bit , off of teh computer , and when, if I think it is worth your time. I shall upload more.

oi oi oi
frog

[Hinton]

A very nice little story, PF. Some vivid imagery in there.

@goblyn: look forward to seeing the pictures. And I loved Brisco County Jr.

[EricJ]

we actually had been throwing around the idea of making a little Bayou board, I think it very well may happen for next gencon (hopefully at least!)

[Hinton]

we actually had been throwing around the idea of making a little Bayou board, I think it very well may happen for next gencon (hopefully at least!)

Hopefully there's a bayou/swamp board, an urban board (Victorian-style, cobblestone streets and all that), a western-style board and possibly a sewers board. Lots of boards for running several demos at once.

Ok, so I'm dreaming, but still....

[EricJ]

something like that is a nice goal at least :)

[Keltheos]

Doesn't hurt to dream and plan ahead. ;)

[TheBugKing]

Well happily, a bayou board is relatively easy to create. There isn't much in the way of elevation difference and if you have a good process for tree creation it is quite easy. The bit that has me at the moment is the mansion. That will take some work. Especially as it is clear that interiors of structures need to be playable spaces.

Do you think that having multiple floors would create a tactical nightmare or is movement smooth enough to facilitate that with out too much trouble.

Quick brainstorm. Add sheet metal sandwiched between the ceiling and floor and add magnets to the demo piece bases. That way they won't shift when you remove the top floor to get at the bottom floor. :D