View Full Version : Favorite Effigy and Reason Why?
Go Canucks Go
07-29-2012, 12:16 PM
Just wondering what everyone thinks out there is the Best Effigy and Why? Which Masters work the best with each Effigy and anybody have any tricks up there sleeves for these guys.
I'm a Neverborn Guy with Zoraida, Collodi and also have a Resser's Seamus Crew, trying to find best Effigy to work with these Guys.
It Depends who your playing with. As guild i do like the idea of the Brutal Effigy for his healing spell (NB can also ofc steal this) For Zoraida my friend says arcane is the best for the extra cast action, and the extra card. Carrion is again good with NB as you can steal corps counters to heal your crew with for the use of 1 action on the effigy and everyone within 4" can sac a counter to heal. Great to deprive the corps hungry ressurs of their counters :)
If i had to say a best effigy, i would probably go with the Arcane simply for the extra card, as the rest all have uses depending on who you are with.
Hodgepodge is great for Leveticus since he can't have a totem anyway, and it brings some nice abilities to his list.
Gruesome
07-29-2012, 12:48 PM
I voted brutal for having seen it on the other side of the board often enough to respect it.
My *FAVORITE* effigy is the Carrion...
... Because I love the model so much.
Getting it to do good things for me is another matter. :)
They can all have their uses, and I like them all in different roles.
I like hodgepodge the best at the moment though. Ability to ignore armour (or other things) is good, looking at opponent's cards is good. His defensive trigger has been great for me too. Good all-round model for 4 points.
Jonas Albrecht
07-29-2012, 12:56 PM
Huh, when did the Brutal Effigy get so popular?
Sliver Chocobo
07-29-2012, 12:58 PM
Arcane, more spells for big mama Z
Undisclosed
07-29-2012, 02:21 PM
I voted brutal, because i'm in a damage and healing mood today.
In honesty i like what they all bring to the table, and it all depends on the crew, they are all mostly on par for me.
Rameses
07-29-2012, 02:53 PM
I voted Mysterious, mostly because I don't have an educated opinion beyond that I have one sitting on my desk waiting to be painted :Sad_Puppet2:
TedPro
07-29-2012, 10:58 PM
I voted for the Arcane Effigy by far. An extra AP for my Master plus a vicious little bodyguard? Yes please.
The Brutal Effigy is handy too. A cheap healer with decent combat is well worth 4 soulstones.
The Hodgepodge I bought and think is beautiful, but the more I look at it, the less I want to field it. It has lackluster melee and ranged, and its special Joker powers all seem like a lot of price for only a little card manipulation. I just can't imagine that I will ever want to field it instead of a Rotten Belle, Slop Hauler, Freikorpsmann, or (for an extra Soulstone) Stitched Together, depending on the Master in question. It seems fine, just lacks the punch for the price.
I don't own the Carrion Effigy or Mysterious Effigy. Both of them seem useful in some situations for some opponent. Removing immunities and Cheating face-down seem handy. More than the Hodgepodge, just not as much as the Brutal or Arcane.
WolfDayDream
07-29-2012, 11:21 PM
I voted for Mysterious Effigy mainly cuz he looks like a Master himself and could be used for story driven skirmishes abilities wise I know nothing about em lol
TedPro
07-29-2012, 11:23 PM
Yeah, I voted based on play style, not art. Honestly, I think the art on all five is top-notch, and I love the way each of them combines notable traits of all four masters from their Faction.
D_acolyte
07-30-2012, 08:52 PM
Mysterious effigy, i can cheet with the card down once a turn and gives slow i love this little guy.
Go Canucks Go
07-30-2012, 09:46 PM
Apparently no one likes the Carrion?
rancor709
07-30-2012, 09:52 PM
I voted Arcane but my favorite look wise is the Carrion. The carrion could be great if the aura was larger I think it has uses but on pure ability Arcane wins.
Boardgameguy
07-31-2012, 01:08 PM
Arcane for me I love the +1 ap for cast or channel for Zoriada. Look forward to taking it with Colette as well to get the +1 ap for her reactivate action in the same turn. Wahoo!
Dorian
07-31-2012, 01:13 PM
I love carrion effigy! Hes so durable, versatile and useful I just dont know why no one else votes for him. I mean come on look at his stat line, amazing compared to every other effigy. His abilities synergize so well, i mean he can remove immunities from anything close enough to kill him next activation. Like all resser models he is decently tough to take down, that h2k really keeps him alive and kicking, best of all he doesnt drop a corpse counter or anything so I dont have to worry about walking over to pick it up. Carrion effigy is best effigy the same way north korea is best korea!
Dustcrusher
07-31-2012, 01:38 PM
I haven't actually used my effigies much yet, but I like ol' HP the best. His defensive trigger is really irritating and his knife, while not particularly powerful, can adapt to your opponent's weaknesses.
I also happen to like that he looks like something Marilyn Manson wishes he'd thought of first.
I like the Carrion Effigy as well- If nothing else, Wk 5 Flight in addition to his debuff and healing abilities are pretty nice together.
NeuroFire
08-02-2012, 04:08 AM
Huh, when did the Brutal Effigy get so popular?
When it became a Melee Expert healer that also has a chance of giving Slow, I think. It's a fantastic bodyguard that costs only four stones, and I don't think I've played a game with it where it didn't deal some damage and heal some guys before it got taken down. I adore my Brutal Effigy; really become disinclined to bother with a totem. (Effigy is even more the way to go when taking the avatar option, since attached totems disappear when you manifest.)
Alviaran
08-02-2012, 04:16 AM
Definitely Arcane. Extra card in hand for Zoraida, Collodi and the Dreamer without taking a totem, an extra AP for each of them and a decent gun on top of it all. Ok. I'm in.
(Lilith and Pandora I don't mention since they seem to be just fine taking a totem. However, it does free things up. At some point, I plan to grab aLilith which means Primordial Magic is getting kicked to the curb for this little buddy every time. Pandora I still need to play to pass judgment on totem vs effigy for her)
Oh, and Arcane is a sweet little model too. That never hurts.
Sliver Chocobo
08-02-2012, 05:02 AM
Definitely Arcane. Extra card in hand for Zoraida, Collodi and the Dreamer without taking a totem, an extra AP for each of them and a decent gun on top of it all. Ok. I'm in.
(Lilith and Pandora I don't mention since they seem to be just fine taking a totem. However, it does free things up. At some point, I plan to grab aLilith which means Primordial Magic is getting kicked to the curb for this little buddy every time. Pandora I still need to play to pass judgment on totem vs effigy for her)
Oh, and Arcane is a sweet little model too. That never hurts.
Zoriadia with out a totem, are you crazy
Also Neverborn can have as many effigies as they want and still have a totem
Cause that's how we roll
Alviaran
08-03-2012, 03:05 AM
Zoriadia with out a totem, are you crazy
Also Neverborn can have as many effigies as they want and still have a totem
Cause that's how we roll
Am I mistaken in thinking that if Zoraida takes a totem I cannot create a Voodoo Doll? I am shaky on a lot of Malifaux rules but I thought you can only attach one totem at any time unless you have a rule that lets you have more (such as the Dreamer's Daydreams). Because I thought that I had to take no totem so I could use my Voodoo Doll, making the Effigy even more attractive. Especially considering I want to get her Avatar because it looks like so much fun and I can only imagine how much fun the Effigy lets me get up to. Or no good. I get those two confused a lot.
NeuroFire
08-03-2012, 03:12 AM
Am I mistaken in thinking that if Zoraida takes a totem I cannot create a Voodoo Doll? I am shaky on a lot of Malifaux rules but I thought you can only attach one totem at any time...
That's what I've always heard. So if she takes a totem, it has to die before she can attach a Voodoo Doll.
Q'iq'el
08-03-2012, 06:15 AM
Carrion is the prettiest of them all.
Arcane is OK I guess but looks a bit off. Mysterious would compete with Carrion in the looks department if not for that weird thumb that reminds something rather unsavory protruding from its behind.
Alviaran
08-04-2012, 01:59 AM
See, I like Carrion's model (mostly because of the whole bird beak/plague bit), but Arcane is probably my favourite model wise too. I currently only own Arcane/Mysterious but have plans of adding all of them to my collection for Collodi.
FoeRender
08-12-2012, 10:16 PM
I like brutal for the healing , medic for 4 points , yes please! Makes lucius even more of a pain to get of .
011121
08-13-2012, 01:08 AM
1. arcane- +1 ap is too awesome for most Neverborn masters and Collodi. On top of that an extra card. And on top of that pretty good combat abilities? Yes, please.
2. brutal
3. carrion
5. (tie) hodgepodge
5. (tie) mysterious
Carrion
Usually the only time I use him is if I want Army of the Dead, I plop him in a corner and he poops out corpse counters every turn. Gaki can do the same thing but he's slower and easier to kill. Carrion has Wk 5 and flight over the Gaki.
stochastic
08-27-2012, 07:18 AM
Since I play Rasputina, I favor the totem "Essence of Power" instead, so I cannot really say that the mysterious is any good from my point of view. :)
Sybaris
09-07-2012, 07:36 AM
For looks, the Carrion effigy wins, followed by the Hodgepodge.
For utility, the Arcane effigy gets it, followed by the Brutal.
The Mysterious effigy is in the middle of it all for me.
As a side note, i am also intrigued now...
Can Zoraida take effigies and still make a Voodoo Doll? I know she can take as many effigies as she likes, but...what about the totem restriction?
CunningStunt
09-07-2012, 07:37 AM
For looks, the Carrion effigy wins, followed by the Hodgepodge.
For utility, the Arcane effigy gets it, followed by the Brutal.
The Mysterious effigy is in the middle of it all for me.
As a side note, i am also intrigued now...
Can Zoraida take effigies and still make a Voodoo Doll? I know she can take as many effigies as she likes, but...what about the totem restriction?
Neverborn ignore aetheric demands so can have as many effigies as they like and still connect a totem.
NeuroFire
09-07-2012, 08:31 AM
Had another game that proved the Brutal was worth its weight in gold the other day. The model that lasted the longest and would have taken out Von Schill if it weren't for the Augmented Jump. Still got my butt kicked because I lost Sonnia way early in the game, but Brutal Effigy nearly turned the tide for me. And a four-point model that can take a beating from aSeamus and a couple Belles without immediately going down is pretty cool. It also has a Magical weapon, always a useful thing to keep handy against Ressers.
Forar
09-07-2012, 03:27 PM
Voted for Brutal, as I'm a fan of healing flips and it's not a bad little combat unit for 4ss, but the Arcane one for the extra card holds a special place in my heart as well.
TheBurner
09-07-2012, 03:37 PM
Voted Brutal, his healing ability is awesome and the fact that it's a (0) Action makes it even better! Add to that, he can give out slow on a trigger and is (+1) Melee Expert! Every single AP he has can be used to great effect!
*Jack*
09-20-2012, 04:10 PM
Voted arcane. Ruleswise, in some crews, it rocks, hands down. Great with Z, great with pandora, great with colette. Both for arcane reservoir, conduct aether, and aetheric bolt. Obviously, against some crews, or with some crews (tina springs to mind, or ramos) then it loses a lot of effectiveness.
Brutal is also great, rules wise IMO. If I wasnt taking a totem for guild, and I didnt take any special forces, then I'd always include it. For 4 points, I think it's miles better than stalkers and death marshals. Also find it good, if a bit slow, in NB crews.
Have the mysterious on my desk right now, yet to use it, but I LOVE The model. Its gorgeous. Not so keen on the hodgepodge, or the carrion ruleswise, but I plan on picking up the carrion to paint eventually :)
decker_cky
09-20-2012, 04:18 PM
Voted arcane. Ruleswise, in some crews, it rocks, hands down. Great with Z, great with pandora, great with colette.
IMO collette losing the ability to summon doves is never a good thing. All the arcanists have a totem which is too good value to give us for the effigy (and kaeris can't ever take it). Arcane effigy is purely for neverborn.
I vote brutal since it adds easy healing to crews that otherwise struggle to include much of it. Plus it's very good value even without the healing.
Mysterious has a great slow bomb, very effective mid/late game. :)
McDoogle
09-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Voted Brutal- Arcane is brilliant for Zoraida but try the Brutal given filled with stones and fast by collodi then obeyed by zoraida can make a stupid number of attacks a turn. Built in brutal is not to be underestimated either!
brdparker
09-20-2012, 11:23 PM
IMO collette losing the ability to summon doves is never a good thing. All the arcanists have a totem which is too good value to give us for the effigy (and kaeris can't ever take it). Arcane effigy is purely for neverborn.
I vote brutal since it adds easy healing to crews that otherwise struggle to include much of it. Plus it's very good value even without the healing.
Nah, I used it to good effect with Hamelin in my Nico crew ('cause what does he need the vulture for, honestly?). And extra card, and ability to have the opponent discard card(s) and an additional AP for Nico. Yeah, it's good stuff. He's worth 5 points into that capacity IMO if you take Hamelin (which there is definitely call for in certain crews).
BumpInTheNight
10-24-2012, 03:23 AM
Mysterious is the way to go, mostly because of the cheating face down is a great way to irritate your opponent. Not to mention his mobility.
Guardian
10-24-2012, 07:09 AM
Im not TOO keen on brutal effigies healing.
You can do it once, and its a pretty high card requirement...
Also, melee expert on such a slow model is not THAT great.
Didnt try the other effigies.
NeuroFire
10-30-2012, 05:39 PM
Im not TOO keen on brutal effigies healing.
You can do it once...
Better than no healing whatsoever. Just saying.
And melee expert on a slower model can still be a big deal in the later turns. It's decided games for me.
easternheretic
02-15-2013, 04:44 AM
I have to say that the Arcane Effigy rules wise is very good.
Arcane reservoir, (1) action to give the leader an additional casting AP are top drawer abilities.
Not to mention a (0) action attack and normal (1) melee and range attacks that targets Ca. Great for getting around those pesky high Df models for softening up or the killing blow.
I can see how it can hamper some arcanist masters who would prefer their totems, but since I'm running a Neverborn crew ATM, it doesn't detract from them at all, only adds.
Cheers.
NeuroFire
02-28-2013, 04:59 PM
Carrion
Usually the only time I use him is if I want Army of the Dead, I plop him in a corner and he poops out corpse counters every turn. Gaki can do the same thing but he's slower and easier to kill.
...Wait, what? I'm not aware that either of those models has the ability to "poop out" corpse counters. I thought it was just Morty that could dig up those things.
Carrion effigy is definitely a good looking model, but its uses are sadly limited from what I've seen.
i_was_like_you
02-28-2013, 07:45 PM
Yeah, I voted based on play style, not art. Honestly, I think the art on all five is top-notch, and I love the way each of them combines notable traits of all four masters from their Faction.
They look great, but could we either bump them up to ht 2 or recast them as actual ht 1 models? Some of them are taller than typical ht 2s.
Vlad the Mad
03-06-2013, 07:20 PM
Only ever played Brutal, and have not been disappointed with it so far. Sure, it's not a fast model, but Guild is not a mobility faction in general. For four points I get Melee Expert, Healing, decent stats, and most importantly a magic weapon. I usually take it instead of a Witchling Stalker with Sonnia or LadyJ, rarely with Perdita, and never with Lucius or Hoffman.
I also play Neverborne, but it's mostly been Guild in the last year or so, so my vote goes to Brutal for my positive experiences with it so far. On paper Arcane looks good with the 'borne, and Mysterious might work as well.
As far as look of the model is a factor I will take Brutal and Mysterious effigies. As utility - Brutal (healing) and Arcane (extra card, extra AP for magic).
theJudge
05-21-2013, 06:05 AM
I have a question for the Brutal effigy. If taken with Collodi and Collodi does Puppet Show + cast Breathe Life on him can you stack the (+1) Mellee Expert? Effectively giving the Brutal 5AP in combat + a zero action to heal in each turn?
If true then thats just nasty...
CunningStunt
05-21-2013, 06:15 AM
I have a question for the Brutal effigy. If taken with Collodi and Collodi does Puppet Show + cast Breathe Life on him can you stack the (+1) Mellee Expert? Effectively giving the Brutal 5AP in combat + a zero action to heal in each turn?
If true then thats just nasty...
No, you can't. Specific Ap doesn't stack.
You can make him a ranged expert though, use his gun, them close for melee :)
PierceSternum
05-21-2013, 08:36 AM
I like the Carrion Effigy.
His card is kind of poop, but the model is amongst my favorite.
:)
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