Rusty Alyce vs Rotten Belle question

[Caamora]

When Alyce rips the Belle and the Belle ignores the rip is the destruction of an attachment avoided as well.. we believe so but just wanted a clarification on timing.

[Justin]

Looking into this. Until we get back to you, play it however it makes sense to you or just flip a card. :)

[Tauwolf]

wow, that does get a bit tricky....

[karn987]

*plays Jeopardy Music*

Yeah sticky one here, we'll be right back to you after these commercial messages...

[Omenbringer]

"I'll take therapist for 200 Alec."

OT Ever want to look behind that curtain?

[Caamora]

Cool.. stumped you guys... :)... Do i get a Pokey Vic for that... hahahahah

[themurphyfella]

Don't make eye contact. They can smell fear

[karn987]

Don't make eye contact. They can smell fear

*stomps by and stops to stare at themurphyfella for a long time*
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_y7H5MA_KFPw/TG64hUXGeqI/AAAAAAAAA20/PEAniDz1OXQ/s1600/staring.jpg


Haha. No it is a good question and one we did miss! We're dealing with it now and we'll have an official answer for you soon :)

[Tauwolf]

I'm thinking the flow goes like this:

Alyce attacks, causes a rip.
Belle has the option to ignore the rip by discarding a card.
If Belle chooses not to ignore the rip, Alyce has the option to tear apart an upgrade (or the puppet) by discarding a card.

This has a nice Alyce-->Belle-->Alyce flow that makes sense (to me, at least, haha).

[Wifstrand]

I'm thinking the flow goes like this:

Alyce attacks, causes a rip.
Belle has the option to ignore the rip by discarding a card.
If Belle chooses not to ignore the rip, Alyce has the option to tear apart an upgrade (or the puppet) by discarding a card.

This has a nice Alyce-->Belle-->Alyce flow that makes sense (to me, at least, haha).

This is how I interpret it as well. Alyce has to cause a Rip to be able to activate her Disassemble ability. At the "Cause a Rip"-stage Rotten Belle has the ability to negate that Rip, preventing the circumstances for Disassemble from ever existing in the first place.

Right?

[ThePandaDirector]

I agrre with Tauwolf and Wifstrand as the requirement is causing a rip, not hitting, so if Belle ignores a rip then it's fine, however if Alyce causes more than one rip then Belle can only ignore one and so suffers any extra rip/s as such Alyce may then discard a card.

[Caamora]

Wow still no official response that I see... the possiblities... the elves must be distracted with the coming holiday.. :)

After a fair bit of thought I believe the rip occured allowing Alyce to activate then the rip was ignored by Belle.. bt what fo I know... hahah

[Ratty]

I'll prod Karn about this.. :) I think they are working out the exact wording for the FAQ.

[karn987]

*whistles Innocently* We've got it figured out, just spot checking one or two things! I anticipate I'll have it for you today :)

[Caamora]

Well aparently I don't know anything and I can't type.. haha.. should have proof read that last post.. looking forward to the response.. Belle was a beast with the Executioner's claws attached that night.. was a bad bad portent for my poor master.. :)

[karn987]

http://puppet-wars.com/Images/PWerrata.png

Intention:
The intention is that Neglected will stop Disassemble from working IF the attack would deal 0 Rips after Neglected is used. So if Alyce hits the Belle, the Belle would suffer 1 Rip but Neglects it down to 0 and thus is not Disassembled.

Errata:
To go along with this, we have a wording up date for the Belle to make sure this is reflected in RAW, the words in color are the changes for convenience:

Neglected: When this Puppet would suffer Rips from an Attack, you may discard a http://www.puppet-wars.com/Images/crowsmall.png to ignore one Rip before they are applied.

Ps: Thank you to Ratty for the Banners!

[Justin]

And for those not in the know, RAW = Rules As Written

[Tauwolf]

Thanks guys! I'll update the wording on the alternate stat cards later this evening and post an updated file.

[Caamora]

Man I hate Belle even more now.... hahahah. Thanks for the update the anticipation was gut wrenching... :)