Regeneration and Poison?

[BigGreen]

If a model had Regeneration 1 and it is Poison 1 and it only has 1 wound left does it die? My friend and I said no, we figured they cancel one other out and the model would live. However just thought I would ask.

[Soundwave]

Well, both happen at the start of its activation, so 1+1-1 should equal 1. Neither happens before the other.

[Q'iq'el]

Actually there is an order to resolving effects, when they happen simultaneously, and it's listed on page 6.

I believe it is the most ignored set of rules in the entire Rules Manual, even though it is arguably the most important thing a player needs to grasp.


Neither of the effects is a must/may effect. They aren't immediate effects either. In such case, you always resolve effects of the acting player before the remaining effects, and the effects caused by terrain/encounter etc. (i.e. not belonging to anyone) last.

Based on that I think Regeneration will normally go first and Poison second, because poison isn't an effect of the acting player. If the poison was given by a friendly model, things may be different though, because the acting player resolves his effects in the activation order.

[Soundwave]

Poison's just an effect,though, is it not? That is, not player-bound.


EDIT: I guess that'd be the "not controlled by either player" clausule, effectively still saving the model.

[Q'iq'el]

Poison's just an effect,though, is it not? That is, not player-bound.


EDIT: I guess that'd be the "not controlled by either player" clausule, effectively still saving the model.

Yup, it saves the mini.

But I think poison is actually traceable to the player that has applied it. I think it's been ruled that way when it came to appropriating the poison kills for the Strategy purpose, but maybe I remember it wrong. In such a case, you'd be safe from opponent's poison, but not necessarily from your own (would depends on activation order).

[marshimartian]

In the past, it's been ruled that poison happens first, though I can't find any support for that in the RM.

[Stern]

this came up ina game i played too it never made much of a difference but when you hit the the point it does it would be nice to know how it resolves