Malifaux Club Tournament

[magicpockets]

Okay, after talking about this with various people I'm posting to see if there's any wider interest in a team based club tournament to find the best Malifaux club in the UK. (No date or venue has been set yet, I'm just gauging feedback for now)

Here's an outline of the idea -

1) You submit a team of four players from your club for the weekend tournament.

2) Over six rounds we play club-vs-club (i.e. all of Cranfield vs all of Harrogate in one round) and you rank based on the score across your team.

3) There are no restrictions on which master/crew each player has to use for each game - however the rare and unique rules apply to the whole team. One Bad JuJu per team, two Coryphee per team... you get the idea.

4) Table placement is random, we'll draw player vs player by chance - there's no guarantee your best player will face your opposing clubs best player.

5) Each team will get four strategies between them and will allocate one per player. No scheme may be repeated across a round in the same team, but the same schemes can be taken every round if people choose.

6) I'm thinking a cash-prize and bragging rights for the 1st place team and we're also in talks for a very substantial spot prize which anyone could win if fate favours them...

Let me know your thoughts on the above and whether its caught your interest - to make it work we'd need either 5,7 or 8 teams.

Ideas, questions and the like always welcome.

[Drake]

Magic,

So we are talking about individual strategy then....unless both players in any given game facing each other have chosen the same strategy.

Is it worth considering a max of each player being able to choose a single strategy twice over the tournament? Some crews have strategies which are very easy to win, so if they take the same one each game, that may not balance overall as well? Just a thought.

Overall I think this is a great idea. Just need to A) choose a location most convenient to majority of clubs and B) encourage UK clubs to get involved.

Other things to consider too ofcourse, but based on the team element, it may be worth encouraging teams to have a back up player should one of the players be unavailable to take part at short notice?

Just some food for thought.

[mythicFOX]

I like it.

Might be better as 3 players per club as it's easier to arrange. Then if they have a reserve it's one car load of people.

Maybe make it so each club can only bring the same faction once. So no club can bring three Neverborn masters for example.


- James

[ukrocky]

I think 4 is the right amount. I'd also be intrigued as to a doubles tourney, whereby you choose your master, and some games you team up for a brawl with your team mate and others you play alone.

I also think Maelstrom would be the best venue, despite it not being the best for me :P

I reckon with tweaking of the rules you've outlined it could definetly work, as to how many a team, I reckon...4...just cos that's what Hordes/Warmachine do for their ETC (Which is in 3 weeks...can't wait!)

[AdrianMills]

Be nice to have 5 people per team each person representing a Faction but I can see why this would be a problem.

[Neverata]

Only issue would be at some of the larger clubs, there might be 6-8 players wanting to play. What would your stance be at two teams from the same club. Just giving you an idea of what you might end up facing

Craig - There is already a possibility of a Malifaux Doubles tournament at Maelstrom during August/September. I'll let you all know when thats arranged

[Clousseau]

Could be interesting.

For the larger clubs maybe 2 teams would be a possibility (as not many clubs could manage 6 players or more, and the numbers per team would need to be even). So certainly 3 or 4 per team, up to 2 teams per club.

Maelstrom's not a bad idea for a venue as it is reasonably central, though a long way for the London & Welsh clubs.

[Drake]

Only issue would be at some of the larger clubs, there might be 6-8 players wanting to play. What would your stance be at two teams from the same club. Just giving you an idea of what you might end up facing

Craig - There is already a possibility of a Malifaux Doubles tournament at Maelstrom during August/September. I'll let you all know when thats arranged

Malifaux Doubles tournament ey, might be interesting prospect..:guns:

[Drake]

Havent been to Maelstom yet but by the sounds of it its good for both location and size (numbers of tables)

2 teams per ckub could work I guess, assuming there are that many players in a club interested..

[Dumb Luck]

Sounds like a plan! I could just about muster a team of three.

[Neverata]

I'm having to sort out the doubles thing at the moment. But its kind of a warm up for the GT you could say.

Supposed to be kind of fun. Doxey and I are still set on the idea of you being tied to your partner :P

Maelstrom may generate two teams, i dunno. I just wanted to put it out there as a possibility. I might be Jesus but i don't think many teams will want me in it :D i'll drag down their average :lol:

[Serigala]

If you get a lot of interest then it needn't all play off in a single event. Maybe a Northern and Southern qualifier would allow more/larger teams, and reduce the distances folk would need to travel. I can be pretty sure of a team from Leeds, and Leeds Wargaming Centre would probably be happy to host the Northern event.

I do agree, that 5 members, each playing a different faction would be the most satisfying way to identify the ultimate Malifaux team (though this makes for a lot of games). At the least, as Mythic suggests, we should limit teams to a maximum of one of each faction.

If teams had additional players then is their any reason why players couldn't sub in and out for each other? We are looking for team performance after all.

[Drake]

The Northern and Southern qualifier idea sounds cool, but is very reliant on having enough teams wishing to take part

[magicpockets]

Whew thanks for the feedback everyone :)

I'm cautious of trying to do too much for the first one, although if the numbers support it there's no reason to not look at qualifiers (I'd be surprised if we got enough teams though).

I'm not sure about the idea of forcing factions on teams as this isn't very "real world" - I think Craig's idea (ukrocky) from when we first spoke about this to limit unique/rare across the team would work and be more "realistic"

I love Malestrom as a venue and would be more than happy to hold it there (presuming they're cool with it etc). Having said that, our club near Milton Keynes could work too as we're on the M1 for the northern lot and it's drivable from Canterbury (who have some very good players), Wales and London.

I see no issue with multiple teams from a club, although internally you'll have to decide whether you group the strong players together for the win or spread them out so you get a good mix.

Re dates, what do people think to December - say 10th/11th?

[Iron Skies]

Just some comments on this. I love the idea that unique models are unique for the whole team though I would like to see a player for each faction being represented (So 5 player teams) with the option of swapping players out if the teams are a little too big. Or even playing a doubles team

[Koali]

Great Idea...

How about opening the Tournament to Europe...
maybe some Clubs from Denmark, germany, Poland, France or Spain would like to join... :)

Making the Thing like a small ETC in Warhammer... :)

[magicpockets]

Great Idea...

How about opening the Tournament to Europe...
maybe some Clubs from Denmark, germany, Poland, France or Spain would like to join... :)

Making the Thing like a small ETC in Warhammer... :)

Could work if there was interest, we could even have the same in each state in the USA with top 3 Euro and top 3 US teams playing in the final ;)

[Wulfila]

How about opening the Tournament to Europe...
maybe some Clubs from Denmark, germany, Poland, France or Spain would like to join... http://wyrd-games.net/forum/../images/smilies/smile.gif

Someone calling for an International Tournament??? :hello:

[Koali]

I Think there could be a germen Team ... depends on how far away the tournament will be... :)

[magicpockets]

WIth cheap airfare we could work something out. One concern would be that EVERYONE would have to be able to speak English to a reasonable level. Knowing Europe as I do that shouldn't be too much of a problem, but just throwing it out there

[Drake]

This would be a lot of work to organise, although if you had one person as a coordinator, and a lead in each country/state to take over organising of venues etc, this could be a very successful event overall.

Maybe run it on the bases of prize for each winning team in each country for the qualifiers, then 1 overall prize for the worlds winning team! so you get something for winning in your country/state and something even better for the world. Gotta have real trophies involved for that. Preferrably ones to keep as too awkward to try and hand over a cup trophy year to year by country to country.

Something like this would no doubt get support from Wyrd as this is getting the game out to the world.

Obviously, UK being the centre of the world (map) the final should be played here (a bit of a tease there maybe :laughing:)

[magicpockets]

Obviously, UK being the centre of the world (map)

You do know all maps center on the country of sale right?

[Drake]

You do know all maps center on the country of sale right?

Goodle Maps and Atlas to name just a couple. Just google images for map of the world and I bet UK is at the centre of it :D

[Koali]

WIth cheap airfare we could work something out. One concern would be that EVERYONE would have to be able to speak English to a reasonable level. Knowing Europe as I do that shouldn't be too much of a problem, but just throwing it out there


Since the game is in english... there should not be so much players that are not able to speak that... :)

[magicpockets]

Goodle Maps and Atlas to name just a couple. Just google images for map of the world and I bet UK is at the centre of it :D

Nope, all mine have Africa ;)

Okay, you win :)

[Drake]

Nope, all mine have Africa ;)

Okay, you win :)

It doesn't happen often ey ;)

[Adran]

One concern would be that EVERYONE would have to be able to speak English to a reasonable level. Knowing Europe as I do that shouldn't be too much of a problem, but just throwing it out there
Doh! That might rule out several of the canterbury players ;-)

I'm provisionally interested, location is going to play a large part in seeing if we can get enough people to travel beyond kent.
The idea does sound great though.

[Iron Skies]

Not so sure about the world tournament myself as costs etc might rule out alot of players however inter-club tournaments would be relatively straightforwards (not) to organise. Again the main issues as raised already would be location and if it should be a one or two day event

[Wulfila]

Obviously it's difficult to organize an event like this, and it's reasonable to have doubts. However, it is even harder to organize the clubs from other countries for a trip, so, if you may decide sooner, it'll be great. In Spain we only have one henchman and the game is centralized in a forum. If you want I can make a popular consultation here to see if there is enough support or not. Koali can do the same in Germany, I think.
Probably, we speak English as the Indians in westerns, but as Koali said, all of us are playing with the game in english.

[ukrocky]

Just call it the ETC and copy what H/WM started last year ;)

[magicpockets]

Just call it the ETC and copy what H/WM started last year ;)

Sad to say I have not idea what you're talking about Craig :(

Re Europe, IF we were to look at it the best case would be a rules pack and tourny which was organised and run by someone in each country, with a final held in the UK which competitors had to get to on their own dime.

In essence it wouldn't affect the UK version of this, we'd just have an extra tourny after to decide an overall winner.

Alternatively, if large scale interest isn't there, we could just open attendance to any club in Europe and we'll help you arrange travel, accommodation, airport transfers etc so you guys didn't have to worry.

Could I suggest posting on your forums about the idea and getting back to this thread with feedback and likely numbers?

[magicpockets]

Okay, pre-registration has been launched here - http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?p=257618#post257618

Obviously it all subject to date/location, but be useful to get an indication of whether it'll work first ;)

[ukrocky]

Adam, gimme a ring if you want, numbers on fbook I believe, I cba to type out what ETC is, but it's defo something you need to look into.

[Talos]

It sounds like an ok idea but I dont like the rare or unique rules. If you going to have it be a tournament to try and find the "best " club then there should be no rules other than normal tournament rules. If you want to add random house rules then market it as a gaming day or something but not as a tournament.
Will see if Cross gaming club is interested but I think alot of people will be turned off by those house rules.

[magicpockets]

It sounds like an ok idea but I dont like the rare or unique rules. If you going to have it be a tournament to try and find the "best " club then there should be no rules other than normal tournament rules. If you want to add random house rules then market it as a gaming day or something but not as a tournament.
Will see if Cross gaming club is interested but I think alot of people will be turned off by those house rules.

It's a tourny to find the best team, not the best group of four players scoring together - so rules will be designed to apply across the team.

By limiting rare/unique and restricting strategies across teams etc you make how well a team can play/work together an important part of the overall mix. Plus don't forget that everyone is in the same boat so it doesn't give anyone an advantage or disadvantage.

Be great if Cross are interested (especially as some of our club supported your event) but I understand if you choose not to get involved - after all it's a tough line up and winning won't be easy... ;)

[Talos]

I understand where you are coming from with it being a team game so rules apply to the team. Still not a fan of it but I can see your reasoning. I just fear people with a limited section of models will be turned off.

I will see if the Cross are interesting but of course without a date or location its pretty hard to gather support for a two day event.

Any thoughts on rules for painting ?

[magicpockets]

I will see if the Cross are interesting but of course without a date or location its pretty hard to gather support for a two day event.


At this stage just an in principle "yes we're interested" is all that I need, I'll try an co-ordinate dates etc with the organiser of each team later.



Any thoughts on rules for painting ?


This is a tough one. I Personally suck at getting stuff painted and am in the "tournaments are about winning, not sportsmanship or painting" camp, however I know that painting matters to a lot of people.

So the question is whether this is a results led tournament or an all-inclusive "hobby" led tournament with sportsmanship and painting points. What do people think - is having a win led scoring system okay with just a prize for painting?

And jumping the gun, just so people know where they stand, I feel proxies should NOT be allowed for unreleased models - significant given book 3 is due soon. You play with what you've got ;)

[Talos]

Ok I will post on the cross forums later today and see if there is any interest. Hopeful everybody is interested and we can bring two teams. As I Lucius player I am laying claim to all of the Cross's Austringers. :)


Painting is a tough choice. I have been in tournaments which give you extra soulstones for having a painted crew. Which has been a nice incentive to get stuff painted (although I still never get everything finished for the tourny) and has not unbalanced the game as it was only 2 ss to use at some point in the 3 games.

I dont think you should get VPs for painting but I do feel there should be a best painted prize. Painting is a large part of the hobby so should be praised but should also be kept separate from the actual game results.I actually really like tournaments where everything has to be painted as they look great but I know people arnt fans.

Not a fan of sportsmenship awards as they are to easy to abuse. Again maybe as its own award but dont make it have an effect on game results.

Hmm proxies are a hard one, I used proxies for guild hounds in my last tournament and nobody had a problem. I think as along as the model looks like what it is proxing and is painted (easier to see ). Also you should only be allowed one proxy, again make it easier to keep track of.
But I feel this will depend on when the tournement is. If the book has just been out for a few weeks and I would say no to book 3 stuff as its to new for everybody to get a look at.

[magicpockets]

Ok I will post on the cross forums later today and see if there is any interest. Hopeful everybody is interested and we can bring two teams. As I Lucius player I am laying claim to all of the Cross's Austringers. :)


Painting is a tough choice. I have been in tournaments which give you extra soulstones for having a painted crew. Which has been a nice incentive to get stuff painted (although I still never get everything finished for the tourny) and has not unbalanced the game as it was only 2 ss to use at some point in the 3 games.

I dont think you should get VPs for painting but I do feel there should be a best painted prize. Painting is a large part of the hobby so should be praised but should also be kept separate from the actual game results.I actually really like tournaments where everything has to be painted as they look great but I know people arnt fans.

Not a fan of sportsmenship awards as they are to easy to abuse. Again maybe as its own award but dont make it have an effect on game results.

Hmm proxies are a hard one, I used proxies for guild hounds in my last tournament and nobody had a problem. I think as along as the model looks like what it is proxing and is painted (easier to see ). Also you should only be allowed one proxy, again make it easier to keep track of.
But I feel this will depend on when the tournement is. If the book has just been out for a few weeks and I would say no to book 3 stuff as its to new for everybody to get a look at.

Be great to have you guys involved - especially as you've got some good players iirc? I think proxies and painting is always going to be tough, but we've got time for people to share their thoughts so lets see what the vocal majority say.

Be sure to post in the other thread with how many teams you're suggesting - and thanks for spreading the word. :)

[Drake]

Also, bear in mind the restrictions wont affect a lot of players, as I imagine a lot of teams will be bringing a crew per faction, so faction specific models limitations on Unique and Rare wont factor for them. It's only really the Outcast options that are affected, e.g. Jack Daw and Misaki.

So should not be too limiting overall whilst still bringing together the team element of the tournament Magic has emphasised.

[magicpockets]

Also, bear in mind the restrictions wont affect a lot of players, as I imagine a lot of teams will be bringing a crew per faction, so faction specific models limitations on Unique and Rare wont factor for them. It's only really the Outcast options that are affected, e.g. Jack Daw and Misaki.


And don't forget it limits Masters...

[Drake]

yes ofcourse, cant have 2 Pandora's in a single team! I would suggest the best team approach, as has been suggested by some, would be to have 1 player per faction in the team. Little to no pressure on Rare/Unique choices then. Although each individual team's approach to their make up of crews/factions is part of the fun of team play!

[magicpockets]

yes ofcourse, cant have 2 Pandora's in a single team! I would suggest the best team approach, as has been suggested by some, would be to have 1 player per faction in the team. Little to no pressure on Rare/Unique choices then. Although each individual team's approach to their make up of crews/factions is part of the fun of team play!

I don't want to insist on faction choices as there's no fluff reason for this and also it isn't fair on players who have all bought into the same faction but different masters - i.e. one has Ramos and another has Collette meaning they have distinct models but one of them can't use their first choice crew.

[Pox]

All sounds good, always up for another tournament. Agree with magic on not limiting faction but limiting rare/uniques - means every guild crew will not be toting nino and an executioner *rolls eyes* also won't see 4 pandoras etc.

Time to get some more practice in...

1 Poxy is usually a good call, as allows players that have spent a lot of time theming and changing their models (all female vicks crew for instance) to use a single proxy increasing their options but whilst not taking the ****. (think at the last tournament someone used a model to represent their insidious madness and that was a pretty cool.)

[mythicFOX]

Could I also recommend we add a no unreleased leaders (masters or henchmen) restriction. This is for two reasons;

It's difficult to practice against unreleased leaders, meaning player can get blind sided. There's also an increasing trend in master have abilities fixes as they're released, making them potentially less balanced before they're released.

[magicpockets]

Could I also recommend we add a no unreleased leaders (masters or henchmen) restriction. This is for two reasons;

It's difficult to practice against unreleased leaders, meaning player can get blind sided. There's also an increasing trend in master have abilities fixes as they're released, making them potentially less balanced before they're released.

James I agree 100% with your idea, and its a big part of the reason I dont think any unreleased models should be allowed - take Rat Catchers with the change from 8 wds to 6wds, that made a huge difference to Hamelin.

[Serigala]

I don't want to insist on faction choices as there's no fluff reason for this and also it isn't fair on players who have all bought into the same faction but different masters - i.e. one has Ramos and another has Collette meaning they have distinct models but one of them can't use their first choice crew.

But we won't be playing as individuals. The tournament is aimed at finding the best team, not the best group of Neverborn (insert faction as appropriate) players. Surely it is quite legitimate to be looking for some degree of breadth?
As for fluff reasons, well you can create fluff for anything you want. Requiring as many different factions as players would allow you to enforce avoid intra-faction scraps.

I think the availability of models within a team will be much less of an issue than in individual tournaments. I would expect folk to share models within the team (and they should be encouraged to do so) and within most clubs there would be enough variety to ensure that crews weren't handicapped by lack of availability of particular models.

[magicpockets]

I know where you're coming from but in the interests of fairness I'm going to leave that decision to each individual team - if they all rock up with a Neverborn master and want to share three stitched together between them that's going to be okay.

[pfuetzi]

I think this is a great idea and personally, I would love to come. A visit to the UK is way overdue and this way, I could kill two birds with one stone :-)
Is there at the moment any idea or indication about when (and where) the event is going to happen, like this summer, this winter, next spring...
Would be nice to be able to give my boss at least a hint on my vacation plans already.

[magicpockets]

I'd like this winter, but will depend on everyone's preferences and priorities - I want to accomodate as many people as possible. I should be confirming it by the end of this month.

[magicpockets]

Well, interesting update on this. As I'm not a part of the Henchman program or approved by Wyrd I won't be organising this tournament for winter. Apologies to all who showed interest and I hope someone else "more suitable" picks this up as I really think it had potential.

And of course this has nothing to do with how vocally opposed I was to the ranking system in another thread.

[Fenrir]

Well, interesting update on this. As I'm not a part of the Henchman program or approved by Wyrd I won't be organising this tournament for winter. Apologies to all who showed interest and I hope someone else "more suitable" picks this up as I really think it had potential.

And of course this has nothing to do with how vocally opposed I was to the ranking system in another thread.


Thats a shame, a club challenge event would have been superb on the calendar.

[mythicFOX]

Well, interesting update on this. As I'm not a part of the Henchman program or approved by Wyrd I won't be organising this tournament for winter. Apologies to all who showed interest and I hope someone else "more suitable" picks this up as I really think it had potential.

And of course this has nothing to do with how vocally opposed I was to the ranking system in another thread.

Really sorry to hear that. I think you'd make a great TO.

If there's anything I can do to support you with making the event a go again please just let me know.

- James

[Drake]

Magic,

I thought that there was no requirement to be a Henchman to be the TO. Just need attendance by a Henchman for it to be officially recognised.

Is Jo a Henchman for example, she is organising the GT

[mythicFOX]

Only that there be a henchmen there at the event. I'll be there so that's not a problem.

Jo isn't a henchmen, but I'll be there and Mitch (Stren) usually helps out too. So again no issue.

Lets try and keep the rankings talk in the rankings thread though.

[Neverata]

I organise the GT for Maelstrom games. Its a bit of a partnership

My refs are mainly made up of henchman except for a select few that are refs out of my choice.
I don't forsee many of the henchman not coming to the GT and therefore most would go to tis ETC style event.

[hewasneverborn]

Well, interesting update on this. As I'm not a part of the Henchman program or approved by Wyrd I won't be organising this tournament for winter. Apologies to all who showed interest and I hope someone else "more suitable" picks this up as I really think it had potential.

And of course this has nothing to do with how vocally opposed I was to the ranking system in another thread.


Thats a real shame. A number of us were very interested in this. Thanks anyway.

[Drake]

yeah, I wasnt questioning the validity of Jo's right to TO the GT, just using it as an example that you can run a tournament and not be a Henchman, just so long as you have Hencham in attendance.

[Neverata]

I'm sure a henchman will get behind Adam on this one and make it happen

[Mike3838]

I thought that there was no requirement to be a Henchman to be the TO. Just need attendance by a Henchman for it to be officially recognised.


I've heard this before somewhere, but giving it some thought I have to admit to being very puzzled by the concept! What does "officially recognised" mean anyway? Why should there be any restrictions on gatherings of people, Henchmen present or otherwise, to play this game? Surely anyone could organise an event of any size if they wanted and people showed up.

Mike

[Fulgrima]

I've heard this before somewhere, but giving it some thought I have to admit to being very puzzled by the concept! What does "officially recognised" mean anyway? Why should there be any restrictions on gatherings of people, Henchmen present or otherwise, to play this game? Surely anyone could organise an event of any size if they wanted and people showed up.

Mike

I have to agree with this, I can't see why an event should need to have a henchman present at all.

If it is to make it an official Wyrd event then does that really matter? How many wfb/40k events are supported by GW and they have great success it shouldnt be any different with Malifaux.

[magicpockets]

Okay, I think I need to step back in and clarify this is nothing to do with Wyrd here as far as I know. It's more an "opinion" that got shared with me and, given everything else and how busy I am with work, I've decided to leave it for someone else to hopefully do.


[Could I suggest that Jo organise this (if she wants to) to be the "otherside" of the GT on the calendar (i.e. in Feb/March)? She's certainly got TO down to an art (admittedly a more Salvador Dali style art :)) and Maelstrom is a perfect venue for the numbers which have shown interest]

[mythicFOX]

If Jo's not interested I'd be happy to step up and take this on.

Or maybe we can work on it together. I'm sure it'll come up at Cardiff at the weekend.

[Fulgrima]

It's cool that there are people who can step into the void, but they shouldn't really have to I would like to think that whoever has shared that opinion with you Magic would be willing to tell us all.

[AdrianMills]

Indeed as it could put off many others from attempting to organise such events

[Drake]

Well, as this idea was originally discussed between myself and Magic at the start, im happy to take the reins on this, in conjunction with James and Jo one or both of you want to get involved? I am quite keen to get this organised, and have been since we had the idea...

As for official Wyrd event, the difference is that (as I understand it) an official Wyrd event receives Wyrd support in the way of donated prizes. Not a massive thing but it all helps make an event more successful.

As a TO, it is also nice to work with Wyrd to bring an event to life for the benefit of all.

[magicpockets]

Well, as this idea was originally discussed between myself and Magic at the start




and have been since we had the idea...


Hold on a sec, I'm not playing anymore - but I haven't cancelled my account on the forum or anything just yet. To clarify, this was something that was devised betwene me, James (MythicFox) and Craig (ukrocky) at the last Maelstrom event long before you picked up your first Malifaux model. In fact, I don't recall discussing this with you except in passing when it came up in conversation.

I let your earlier attempt to jack this idea go without comment ->


great, thanks Wulfila, looking promising so far....I think we are looking at a Winter date, as there seems to be less tournaments that time of year, flights are often cheaper and gives us plenty of time to get the event organised.

Will discuss further with MagicPockets and give you all a provisional date...

But blatantly trying to muscle in like this is a bit much. I don't mind who does this moving forward, but I can't let comments like that go without pointing out you had no involvement in this and I can only see what you're doing as trying to blag your way into running what is clearly going to be a big and important event.

Sorry Ash, but it needed to be said.

[Clousseau]

Well, interesting update on this. As I'm not a part of the Henchman program or approved by Wyrd I won't be organising this tournament for winter. Apologies to all who showed interest and I hope someone else "more suitable" picks this up as I really think it had potential.

And of course this has nothing to do with how vocally opposed I was to the ranking system in another thread.

Can I just clarify that it is NOT a requirement that a tournament has to be run by a Henchman, or even that one has to be at the event (or even in the same country).

[The rankings proposal includes a henchman requirement, but as ateam event I would assume that it wouldn't be a ranking event.]

Finally, @ magicpockets - teddies back into pram please - I don't believe that anyone (especially Drake) is trying to take over/take credit for what you've been doing on this topic. Drake may not be aware of conversations you've had prior to a discussion at club night so to him it's an initial discussion.

So let's all chill and look forward to a fun event sometime soon, somewhere in Europe!

[Drake]

Finally, @ magicpockets - teddies back into pram please - I don't believe that anyone (especially Drake) is trying to take over/take credit for what you've been doing on this topic. Drake may not be aware of conversations you've had prior to a discussion at club night so to him it's an initial discussion.

So let's all chill and look forward to a fun event sometime soon, somewhere in Europe!

Thanks Clousseau, and apologies to Magicpockets, I genuinely didnt realise this went back further than our initial chats about this. If I have stepped on anyones toes I apologise. Im certainly not trying to muscle in here.

Apologies to jump in again,but thought it was fair I respond and clarify this is merely a misunderstanding on my part as I obviously didnt realise the previous history to this.

Im shutting up now

[Neverata]

Only just read half of this Adam, why don't you and I do this for February/ March. No need to step out of this altogether if you still wanting to be involved or something

I'll have plenty of time after the GT and thanks for saying i've got it down to an art :D

I'm not wanting to step on toes either, and will only be involved if people want me to be.

[magicpockets]

Only just read half of this Adam, why don't you and I do this for February/ March. No need to step out of this altogether if you still wanting to be involved or something

I'll have plenty of time after the GT and thanks for saying i've got it down to an art :D

I'm not wanting to step on toes either, and will only be involved if people want me to be.

Thanks Jo, but I think you (or maybe you and James if you need help - which I don't think you do, plus James probably wants to play ;)) should run with this considering how the past Maelstrom events have gone. It looks like it could be bigger than we even thought at first and I think it needs someone with experience to make it what it can be. In fact, as Steve is also jacking in playing (so he says ;)) maybe he could help? Either way, I know it'll be just about good enough with you at the helm :lol:

And Dave, thanks for the teddies out of pram line, really means a lot.

[Neverata]

Adam.....i owe you a drink. Nice to feel wanted.......


SO..............How are you lot all set for February!?

I'll speak to Maelstrom tomorrow. Anyone have any preferences

[magicpockets]

Adam.....i owe you a drink. Nice to feel wanted.......


SO..............How are you lot all set for February!?

I'll speak to Maelstrom tomorrow. Anyone have any preferences

I'd start up a new thread with links at the bottom of the existing two, and PM the people I listed on this (or the other??) thread to let them know you're running with this and about the new thread. It'll be a lot cleaner, plus we cut out the "omfg" in the middle

[Neverata]

I will do but just want to scout dates so I can speak to maelstrom before I set up a new thread.

[Mike3838]

February sounds like the best plan. Right now I reckon you could take your pick of any weekend that works for you and Maelstrom.

Just not on Valentines day please :D

Mike

[NewbieFromHell]

as Steve is also jacking in playing (so he says ;)) maybe he could help?

yep for the time being i'm looking at other systems :)

[Neverata]

You're playing in the GT steve!

[NewbieFromHell]

You're playing in the GT steve!

only because you asked nicely, think of it more as "coming out of retirement" :P :P :P

[Neverata]

Awesome. Asking nicely is the key...

[Clousseau]

only because you asked nicely, think of it more as "coming out of retirement" :P :P :P
...or going into it :sadwavey:

[Neverata]

Maelstrom diary is being looked into
Will post a new thread up with proposed date in next few days. Any feedback will be welcome

[Drake]

Looking forward to dates and getting involved. Any help I can give :thumb:

[Neverata]

It's either last weekend feb or first weekend march, give everyone a chance to be paid :lol: