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cdukino
04-09-2007, 03:04 AM
I agree it's a shame this round went as it went with so many no-shows. Takes out a big part of the game ellement. But I do think real life issues are more important then an online painting competition.

Edit: cut out my long post replaced it with this:

I am assuming and trusting we all try to make it as much fun and as stress free (save the natural competition stress and pushing yourself as that's art of the game. That's what makes iron and not candyfloss painters) as we can, which includes for ourselves. And those who don't and don't care can go spank themselves.

I'd hate for this compettion to go sour due to name calling and accusations. We are in this for fun afterall. Let's try to keep it that way.
Pretty pretty please... looks at everyone with the biggest puppy eyes she can manage.... who's in for group hug.

Iff
04-09-2007, 03:19 AM
I'm sorry that I didn't manage to get an entry in. All I can say about that is that apparently I'm not an Iron Painter. As I said when signing up, it had been a while since I did some serious painting, and I had hoped that joining the competition here would give me the kickstart to get back in the habit.

Kudos to all the people who did finish in time. There's some lovely concepts and painting in the gallery. I hope Vike can get the contest back on track.

Iff

Mosch
04-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Thanks to everyone who wished my father a good recovery.


All I can think is WTF??!!

This is pathetic. The rules were explained at the beginning and you think it's beyond your ability to keep up why the hell did you bother to sign up anyway and ruin it for those who are actully willing to try and do the work to win? Out of eight matchups there's only THREE where scores will actually matter for anything! I can understand the reason why Mosch had to drop out, but where the hell is everybody else? This is a joke, I put together a nice prize package of my own but now I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered....

Excuse me if I sound mad but I'm a bit ****ed off at teh moment

Now please don't overreact. It sucks, true, but if people just don't have the time or motivation due to unforseen consequences (like me, though mine happened just hours after I submitted) they shouldn't be shouted at. It's only toy soldiers...

I would have loved to keep on painting, but I don't know if I could do it. It would be the best for everyone if I dropped out - the other 8 could advance into the quarterfinals, a perfect number - have three more rounds and we know our current Iron Painter ;)
Of course alternatively we could just drop the whole competition right there. I think this should be a group decision; if the painters this round don't want to carry on it would be stupid to keep on painting just to find a winner.

Maestro
04-09-2007, 05:06 AM
I can well understand the reactions on this low show-up rate.. But things in real life can happen that take away all your lust to paint.. I had all sorts of ideas and motivation to do it, but then real life kicked me in the nuts and took it all away.

Trying now to get some motivation to do anything at all..

DrEvilmonki
04-09-2007, 06:11 AM
All right apologies ALL ROUND from me. I have had a very crap two weeks - no I don't want to discuss it .
Possibly if it had been a theme I was more attune to I would have finished something but I doubt it would have been of sufficient quality for me to go forward anyway.
I don't think the comp is broken as such.

Beelzebrush
04-09-2007, 06:48 AM
Aye... apologies from me too. No crap weeks or anything. I had a week off work and rather than painting the mini I decided due to incredible UK weather to landscape my garden. It's been on the back burner since October when it was destroyed by a flood. Just seemed more important :( Easter got in the way too.... relatives, son off school, wife off work... gah life really.

I did manage to get the mini 75% painted but that's not 100% and was pointless entering it.

In light of the no-shows.... is it possible to extend the deadline by a few days? I know it's not in the spirit of IP but may help produce a few more entries? Mine would certainly be finished... I tried to finish it yesterday but visiting relatives made it impossible :(

Ritual
04-09-2007, 06:58 AM
Well, I must say I'm unimpressed by the number of entries this round! But, I won't start accusing people left and right, as I don't know the reasons for dropping out, and it won't change anything either. Let's just hope that we're done with this now.

If it's fine for everyone else involved in this I'm ok with letting the 8 willing contestants pass on to the next round as a reward for finishing their entries and to make the rest of the competition (hopefully) more interesting.

Beelzebrush
04-09-2007, 07:16 AM
Well, for what it's worth, here's my unfinished mini :(

http://www.c20th.boltblue.com/unfinished.jpg

matty1001
04-09-2007, 07:17 AM
I agree with that Ritual.

Will the judges still be voting on the entrys? As there is still 3 matchups where scores will count, so some people will have prizes to send off and such.

vincegamer
04-09-2007, 07:23 AM
It might seem unfair to those who actually had competitors (to those of us who won by a no-show it's still a win), but as Mosch has volunteered to drop out, I'm okay with everyone else advancing.

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, sure, it's a disappointment, but it's Iron Painter. We're supposed to expect some people to be unable to finish in the short time period.
I can understand pride preventing some people from posting anything other than their best work, but if I hadn't finished, I would have posted an unfinished mini, and hey, I still would have won this round.

So, I say move on as usual. I think 8 is more fair than 6 but have no problem with 6. I do still want a score though (for the aid of comments and the ability to get "best total score" in the comp.)

p.s. It wasn't ruined for me, as I painted a mini that's been sitting on my desk for almost 2 years now waiting for the brush - and it's a part of a commission. So I benefitted from the round.

Beelzebrush
04-09-2007, 07:30 AM
@ Vince... Good point about submitting an unfinished entry... I wasn't sure if it was in the spirit of IP either to be honest. My entry would have been finished had the deadline been today. Sometimes, there's simply not enough hours in the day. Just to point out that it wasn't pride stopping me entering anything but my best work... it simply isn't finished... it has no base and there's still a little bit to do with the paintjob.

As I've said, I apologisse for not submitting it but I did try to get this done :(

supervike
04-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Make no apologies!!

I agree it is part of the competition....in fact I count on 'NO SHOWS'...I was just shocked by how many no shows there were.

Again...this competetion, all though full of pride and bragging rights, is just a silly little painting exercise anyhow. It doesn't hold a candle to real life events, nor does it reflect poorly on those that cannot finish. It's all part of the game really, but remember it is ONLY a game.

I still haven't decided on how to proceed, passing the 8 finishers (minus Mosch) to the next round does seem to make the most sense. I'd like to hear more opinions before I decide on that though. I do know that extending the deadline isn't going to work, there is no way I can spin that to make it seem fair.

Again...we'll plod on from here, if anything it makes an interesting chapter on the story that is The Iron Painter.

Henrix
04-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Only shows that Iron Painter is IRON painter, and not, I don't know, pewter painter. ;-)


I'd still like to see all the minis that didn't make it, though! Lots of fun ideas and good minis so far, and seeing WIPs or minis finished after the deadline would be fun as well.

I'll finish my non-entry in a couple of days, now that my convention is over and my guest is leaving tomorrow.

Malebolgia
04-09-2007, 09:17 AM
I also think this round's theme was hard as hell. Of course that is not an excuse for not entering, but I can imagine it becomes even harder to get at it with a hard theme. But then again, this is Iron Painter :).

As for the next round, why not "re-pair" the 9 that entered and then go from there. You could do the following:
1 vs 1
1 vs 1
1 vs 1
1 vs 1 vs 1

With the best 4 progressing to the next round. That leaves 2 rounds of Iron Painter, so within 5 weeks the losers can rejoin in IP3 :D:D

Hinton
04-09-2007, 09:20 AM
Ok, I know I'm not involved in the IP, but I'll throw in my opinion here (hope no one minds).

I would say go ahead and score the entries just so those that entered know how they did, but then "advance" them - minus Mosch (sorry to hear about your dad, M and hope your grandmother is ok as well). It's too bad that many didn't get a chance to finish and I can certainly see both sides here: those that are upset at the lack of completed entries and those that couldn't complete due to life happening.

Just my 2cp.

vincegamer
04-09-2007, 10:05 AM
I just don't get the complaining about your opponent not finishing in time.
It's a win.
I won another round! Yay me!
(of course since Zeke hasn't even posted here since round 1 ended, I'm thinking I won't be seeing a prize).

supervike
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
Missing out on the Wren vs. EricJ bout was anti-climatic...



I think I will just re-pair the 8 with an all new theme.

Do we still want/need the judging?

In regards to 'no shows' for prizes.....Please PM me, and I will make sure you get something for your troubles.

Nathan Caroland
04-09-2007, 10:10 AM
Meh, life happens, no one should get upset about anything in the least bit as I've let more than a few things slide myself due to life jumping up or the grass looking a little greener for me laying outside and snoozing on it.

:D

Just got back from my weekend away as it is and reading this. Iron Painter with a deadline, that's how it is. Didn't finish, no biggies. Sorry to hear about some of the problems folks are having with family and general life - been there, doing that, don't like it either. Hope it gets better for all.

Me, I'm just a judge, I'll vote how I'm directed when Jim makes his decision.

Weenies!

matty1001
04-09-2007, 10:15 AM
I would quite like the votes pease, or more importantly the comments.

vincegamer
04-09-2007, 10:18 AM
Definitely want the votes.
Otherwise it won't be as fulfilling when I get best total score at the end when I am named Iron Painter.

cdukino
04-09-2007, 10:22 AM
I'm all for having the 8 advance if Mosch is stepping back

Mosch: I do wish your dad all the best. I know how it feels to have family (granted not as close as my dad) in hospital with all the insecurity and stress involved (I just lost an uncle and another was suddently hospitalised (very seriously) but came through it well (happened last week). Take care of yourself and family first.

Jubilee
04-09-2007, 10:23 AM
I would appreciate votes and comments, too!

/ali

ps. I was also looking forward to the Wren v. EricJ match.. maybe they can have a grudge match after the season is over.. ?? ;)

Thryth
04-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Another vote for, er, votes. :)

For what it's worth. I'm not in Iron Painter to crush my opponents :), I'm really in it to:

Have something to force me to paint.
Have other people critique my work so that I can improve.
Have other people see my work.

cdukino
04-09-2007, 10:34 AM
Definitely want the votes.
Otherwise it won't be as fulfilling when I get best total score at the end when I am named Iron Painter.

Mr Vince, you do realise i am having a headstart concerning total score, and you do realise i tend to keep it that way don't you? ;)

Beelzebrush
04-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Hey Mosch... Sorry to hear about your dad too. I hope he's okay!

PM me your address and I'll get a mini in the post for you.

orkydave
04-09-2007, 11:24 AM
I think all 8 advancing is probably the fairest way to go this time round and put it down to experience and learn from it.

I would also however like the judges to vote, score and comment on pieces as before- I am sure all painters concerned put a lot of thought went into the theme and work into the piece to get finished in time. I think it only fair that we receive the scores to see if the judges got our ideas.

Also would the 3 'losing but advancing' competitors still need to pay their 'entry fee mini' to their opponent? If so I shall PM you my address TAB!!!! he he he !

vincegamer
04-09-2007, 11:27 AM
Cindy, Cindy, Cindy,
Why do you even bother?

I happen to be right behind you you know.
Oh, and I trounced you soundly in theme last time. You may have made the difference in technique, but the more I paint the better my technique will get, but you will still have the same imagination.
Besides, you have to stop adding once you get knocked out, so I'll have a round or two ahead of you when I get named Iron Painter.

cdukino
04-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Bring it on Vince bring it on. I'm not going down without a fight you know. But heck as long as you stay where you belong... like you so well put "right BEHIND me" It's easy

EricJ
04-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Missing out on the Wren vs. EricJ bout was anti-climatic...




:( yes, I did bad. All sorts of things came up for me this last week although until the last minute I thought I had something... but no excuses, it turns out I'm simply not as Iron as I had hoped. I am still offering my donated prize to the winner of IP3 though :)

supervike
04-09-2007, 12:23 PM
Kudos for that Eric! And Kudos for the rest of you carrying on so well....

Thanks! It means alot.

EricJ
04-09-2007, 12:34 PM
I do however think that a major holiday might not be the best deadline for a round ;)

Ritual
04-09-2007, 12:34 PM
I'll be doing my usual judging chores during the beginning of this week, so you should have them by Wednesday or so.

Mosch
04-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Hey Mosch... Sorry to hear about your dad too. I hope he's okay!

PM me your address and I'll get a mini in the post for you.


Thanks. He is more or less OK. Nothing physically wrong has yet been found. The biggest problem now is the somewhat lingering panic and nightmares that keep him (and most of the rest of the family really) from sleeping.


I do however think that a major holiday might not be the best deadline for a round ;)


Nobody forces anyone to post on the very last day ;)

Ritual
04-09-2007, 02:02 PM
Take care of yourself and your father, Mosch!

TAB Studio
04-09-2007, 04:42 PM
Our family wishes you the best Mosch from DM of Doom on down to lil man, glad to read that things are looking up.

matty1001
04-09-2007, 06:03 PM
Im just going to echo what everyone is saying Mosch, hope you and your family are well.

@Vikey, of course il plod on, iv got a pass into the next round! Im in it to win now!

Duende
04-09-2007, 10:41 PM
All I can say to that is WTF. You have no idea what is going on in peoples lives that could impact on completing this. I am in no way going to share what is going on in my private life with a bunch of strangers.
To be honest all I can say is apologies to everyone else...


I'm very sorry if it seemed like I was looked like I was asking for a time/date stamped accounting of everybody's last two weeks. I wasn't, but I just felt that if a person is going to be participating in a public contest, then a brief "I didn't finish my mini" message would have at least been a simple courtesy. I felt it was like hosting a party that half the people invited that said they would show didn't, and didn't call or anything, just left you wondering, and with a lot of uneaten food lying around.

Maybe my expectations were too high. I still have my records from the last IP and round 2 in there had 14 entrants and only one DNF. So I thought there might be one or two DNFs, but I certainly didn't expect this many.



... and screw you to you.
That that is what hurt me the most. Sure I was angry when I wrote my original post but it happens. Am I supposed to express only "happy time" emotions in the forums and anything else is forbidden? And I don't feel I singled out anybody at all and I certainly didn't tell anybody in particular what they can do to themselves. I'm sorry if you feel like I was singling you out, but I wasn't, I was thinking of ones who didn't write anything at all.


@ Mosch- I hope your family is doing better. This sounds kinda morbid but I hope the doctors figure out what went "wrong" since I just think knowing the cause of whatever brought about his episode is better than not knowing. But just saying "I hope the docs find something" seem like an odd-sounding sentiment.

Wren
04-09-2007, 11:21 PM
Hi all. I'm back at home now. It'll take me a while to catch up on 10+ days of Wyrd message goodness, but I had to hop on and check where things were in the land of Iron straight off. I'm sorry to find that they're in a bit of a tense place. :-< I'm particularly sorry to hear what's going on with Mosch's father and I hope that he feels much better and that the doctors find out what they need to know to keep him feeling better.

I feel badly about being one of what turned out to be many DNFs, and for my part in depriving people of the Wren vs. EricJ showdown. :-< (Though I'm not sure I see where the suspense of that match is, as Eric is, well, Eric!) I do take committments like the Iron Painter pretty seriously. Last time I took it seriously enough to put off numerous appointments and engagements over the course of the competition to complete my entries, and generally drove my husband crazy. I hesitated before entering this one because I knew I had some commissions and the vacation coming up, but I thought I could juggle it. Right after the contest started I got a few more commissions and a second vacation added. Then TAB posted her fantastic entry and I figured that solved the problem. I'd get voted off honourably, have to endure a lot of ribbing and smack, but not have to worry about the time crunch. When I made it through to the next round, I really did intend to do my best, but being smacked with a two week cold right before having to take a trip did me in. Although I worked on my entry in the hotel for hours in an uncomfortable chair with horrible lighting, I was pretty disheartened by how horrible my WIP pictures were, and it made me feel like what is the point of sitting up in the room spending another day on this when no one can even see the work well enough to judge it instead of spending time with friends I only get to see once or twice a year? I agonized over the decision a little, but in the end I went with my other geek passion of board gaming.

Duende, I know you've explained that your concern was with the people who didn't post any info, but just in case my previous comment seemed flippant or like I don't appreciate that I've made a commitment by signing up to IP, I thought I would expand a little on my inability to finish the entry. I hope to take some viewable WIP shots over the next couple of days, and I would like to finish the miniature some time. I think it was coming out pretty well, despite a bit of a grainy paint problem.

callumrice
04-10-2007, 08:09 AM
Man, Im away for the weekend and look what happens!

Hey guys, christ, calm it down, its only a comp!

I can feel for the people who couldnt get an entry in, everyone does try but coming from a first round casualty it does seem unfair and I can sympathise with Duendes comments. A lot of work goes into running this comp I feel.

My opinion? Im slightly rattled that even although I was hammered in the first by Eric, he didnt manage to complete a mini for the second round and so I feel his going through against me was wasted. Knowing full well I could have completed an entry for round 2 makes it worse. But hey, thats IP for you.

Its annoying for anyone who got knocked out in the first and their opponent does a no show in the next round! Its not a personal gripe though Eric! You still entered a great mini in round 1. I am however still awaiting your address to send you a mini, even although Ive asked a few times now! where do you live damnit!!!

N.b. @Maestro, what happened to you? Did I miss your post or something, I didnt expect you to be a no show like, even after all the taunting! Whats the deal? Was looking forward to seeing your next entry.

Maestro
04-10-2007, 09:43 AM
http://wyrd-games.net/showpost.php?p=24319&postcount=254

supervike
04-10-2007, 10:10 AM
Again, let me reiterate....


I feel none of you non-finishers owe any sort of apology at all. If you feel the need for an explanation, that is perfectly fine. Iron Painter is all about getting things done in a short period of time, but never EVER EVER does it take precedence over real life....If it did, I'd think we all would need a reality check.

I'm a bit disappointed, sure, but not with the contestants who didn't finish. I am just disappointed because it seemed to take the wind from the sails of the contest.

I say we buck up, clean our brushes, and carry on. Judges are doing their thing right now, we have 8 contestants eagerly awaiting judgements, matchups, and another theme!

Dr. Evilmonkie is a still a weenie.
Maestro is a big girls blouse.
Beezlebrush and Lavronyor deserve to have their names spelled wrong.
And I've got math to f*ck up.

LETS GO!

vincegamer
04-10-2007, 10:49 AM
Cindy and I are already doing our part.

It's like boxing: okay everyone, shake hands, make nice, and the commence beating the crap out of each other again (verbally)

"To me, boxing is like a ballet,
except there's no music, no choreography,
and the dancers hit each other" - Jack Handy

Stupidcow
04-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah this contest still rocks & I want my crown.

TAB Studio
04-10-2007, 11:05 AM
Again, let me reiterate....

we have 8 contestants eagerly awaiting judgements, matchups, and another theme!



Damn straight!

Do I get to squeak by again???

Oh geez this is too good to be true!
You all better watch you as*, I am refueled and face it, I never ran out.

Yes .... back to the smack!

:vb_devil:

vincegamer
04-10-2007, 11:13 AM
Oh, and yesterday I commented on all the entries, including the Round 1 entries I hadn't commented on yet.

Thryth
04-10-2007, 11:33 AM
@supervike The DNF's do not make the contest any less fun for me. As I said in a previous post, my reasons for being in the competition really don't have anything to do with competing against someone. I got by the first round due to a DNF which means I was able to be in the second round (which gave me the incentive to paint a rather nice miniature, if I say so myself :) )

I think that Iron Painter is a very successful competition. There are only a limited number of people in the contest with very limited time-frames and almost 40 miniatures have been painted for it so far. I consider that more successful than many contests.

@vincegamer I noticed the comments. Thank you for taking the time to do so. That is a big part of why I enter these competitions.

Wren
04-10-2007, 01:27 PM
I forgot to mention something fun about my vacation - I had the opportunity to meet Xenon_Wulf! He's a very nice and enthusiastic guy, and I very much enjoyed the chance to chat with him. We didn't get to play any games together, but hopefully there will be future opportunities for that.

Xenon_Wulf
04-10-2007, 06:25 PM
I forgot to mention something fun about my vacation - I had the opportunity to meet Xenon_Wulf! He's a very nice and enthusiastic guy, and I very much enjoyed the chance to chat with him. We didn't get to play any games together, but hopefully there will be future opportunities for that.


Damn straight there'll be opportunities for that ;)

I'm just sorry I didn't get to see your round 2 WIP...

Which reminds me, is there a reason why I have a picture in my gallery queue that still didn't get posted?

Nathan Caroland
04-10-2007, 09:00 PM
Which reminds me, is there a reason why I have a picture in my gallery queue that still didn't get posted?

Took a look at the moderated stuff (which is turned off). Nothing in there and nothing in the hidden corners either. Shoot me a PM and elaborate a bit and I'll be happy to look into it.

LavronYor
04-10-2007, 09:43 PM
Well, miss a few days and all kinds of mayhem. I can see both sides of this and I have mixed feelings about it. Like Callumrice, I do feel somewhat angered by people advancing and then no showing. ( I know vince you won one round fair and square and deservedly so.) I also know that real life often steps in and prevents fun activities like tournaments.

First, these ideas are mine and if anyone agrees or disagrees, feel free to flame me or congratulate me or say " wow, what dream world is he living in"

I am in no way trying to punish anyone for what has already happened, and I feel bad for all on both sides of this issue. IN FUTURE IP CONTESTS, maybe, just maybe if people have to do a no show, they are fined three points for their next IP entry ( most likely this will be the next contest or a later one. I figure three points, because they, (one, have deprived someone else who may have competed, and (two, should they decide to properly respect IP for what it is, can still overcome a three point penalty if they work at it.
Another different idea might be to "un" randomly pair them off in future IP with others of their kind. And still another idea, might be to include them as normal and make a WNA announcement ( an even if I win, I Will Not Advance claim and take their winner's prize and send their losing opponent to the next round for them ) I like this idea because competition is still upheld, with winners receiving their prizes, but only people who actually want to continue move on.

I feel strongly about this, only because I have seen what happened to Golden Toadstools and I sense that there are some strong feelings here as well.
All right then, feel free to attack me. My shield wall is up... :-)

Stupidcow
04-11-2007, 12:41 AM
When you are out, then you're out. Unless you won a wild card during that round to advance. What does it got to do with the person who eliminated you doing a "no-show" later on.

I'm not sure about the other but my purpose here is not to stake on a mini or $5. So far I had only received a mini from Jubilee, tried to pay Skya $5 but failed, didn't send Wren a mini and had not received minis from quite a few individuals. However I'll all cool, and I think the others are as this contest really isn't about winning any prizes, but one that is good fun and at the same time push your painting to the limits due to the competitive nature.

Having all these extra penalties rules is just gonna make this so much more complicated and less enjoyable. I feel that in future its good to remind the individuals who sign up that they should be prepared to commit themselves to painting for the next 2-3 months if they are thinking of making it to the finals. Also to explain themselves if possible and to apologize for "no-shows" so everyone can feel better. That's me 2 cents.

Malebolgia
04-11-2007, 02:49 AM
Dr. Evilmonkie is a still a weenie.
Maestro is a big girls blouse.
Beezlebrush and Lavronyor deserve to have their names spelled wrong.
And I've got math to f*ck up.

UbersuperpowerAMEN! This alone makes IP worthwhile! And that said by a loser who got kicked out twice in round 1 should say something :D

Maestro
04-11-2007, 04:12 AM
Maestro is a big girls blouse.
Oi! Don't even go there girl-friend! I'm a big-butch-man, y'all are the big-girls-blouses..

Especially Callumrice, don't get me started about thàt loooooooserrrrr.... (losing from Eric.. *smirk*)

callumrice
04-11-2007, 05:40 AM
Oi! Don't even go there girl-friend! I'm a big-butch-man, y'all are the big-girls-blouses..

Especially Callumrice, don't get me started about thàt loooooooserrrrr.... (losing from Eric.. *smirk*)


Ahh, your a funny guy ol John Thomson.

I took great pride initially in being eliminated by such a renowned painter but now, after knowing that Im the ONLY person he has EVER eliminated in an IP, Im not so happy.

Mark my words shoddy, you will feel my wrath!

And to you Maestro, what....ever!

vincegamer
04-11-2007, 06:59 AM
Well, I can bring up an old suggestion that didn't win approval back then: double elimination.

You have a winners bracket and a losers bracket. Basically if you lose a round, whether by points or no-show, you drop into the losers bracket, and if you lose there, you are out.
It would take slightly longer is all.

Just a thought. Personally, I'm happy with the tournament the way it is.

Mosch
04-11-2007, 07:06 AM
I know that this is not relevant for IP, but: My father's back from the hospital, they did not find any physical irregularity. He's more or less OK now and thanks everyone who wished him a speedy recovery.

Just wanted to tell you guys ;)

DrEvilmonki
04-11-2007, 08:24 AM
I know that this is not relevant for IP, but: My father's back from the hospital, they did not find any physical irregularity. He's more or less OK now and thanks everyone who wished him a speedy recovery.

Just wanted to tell you guys ;)

My father went through a similar event 3 years ago. Thought it was a heart attack but tests showed it wasn't. Scared the crap out of though and he's not smoked since (and no recurances).

So I hope yours is the same and it was nothing serious.

supervike
04-11-2007, 08:24 AM
I know that this is not relevant for IP, but: My father's back from the hospital, they did not find any physical irregularity. He's more or less OK now and thanks everyone who wished him a speedy recovery.

Just wanted to tell you guys ;)

This is completely relevant! We aren't just goofily named painters, we are actually a real community that is concerned with each other...I'm very glad to hear he is doing better, it had to be a very hard time for all involved.

Ritual
04-11-2007, 08:25 AM
Good news, Mosch! Good news! :)

Hinton
04-11-2007, 08:25 AM
I know that this is not relevant for IP, but: My father's back from the hospital, they did not find any physical irregularity. He's more or less OK now and thanks everyone who wished him a speedy recovery.

Just wanted to tell you guys ;)

Good to hear that he's ok. If they didn't find anything, then hopefully it's because nothing's there and it was just one of those weird things.

supervike
04-11-2007, 08:34 AM
In answer to the FIRST PAGE questions:


Will TAB Studios take advantage of the 'give me another chance' prize? Definately!
Will vincegamer continue to dominate his opponents? It wasn't even a contest this time!
Can DrEvilmonki shake off his weiner title long enough to stop the power that is cdukino? No, DrEvilmonki will go back to shaking his wiener title afterall.
Will Mosch continue to surprise? Yes, I think everyone was surprised.
Does reigning champ Wren ever get a break? Yup, she got a break all right! First TAB, now EricJ! Being the champion sure isn't easy...
Will callumrice continue to smacktalk? Does a bear sh*t in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic?
Can IFF win without the benefit of a coin-helper? All we needed was a completion! But No.


Can Thryth or Jubilee learn the fine art of talking the smack? Not really, no.They can't just outnice each other, can they? Seemingly so.

Duende
04-11-2007, 08:49 AM
Well, DrEvilMonki and I have made nice via PM so he's not that much of a weenie after all! :D (Or is it more complementary so say he a big, huge, MASSIVE weenie? These guy-things confuse me) :dizzy:

@ Mosch - Glad to hear your dad's alright.

And I still get a kick that you quoted me in your sig. Did I tell you I'm mostly German by heritage? And I'm always perfectly calm, aren't I? :angel:

Beelzebrush
04-11-2007, 09:59 AM
I'm not sure about the other but my purpose here is not to stake on a mini or $5. So far I had only received a mini from Jubilee, tried to pay Skya $5 but failed, didn't send Wren a mini and had not received minis from quite a few individuals. However I'll all cool, and I think the others are as this contest really isn't about winning any prizes, but one that is good fun and at the same time push your painting to the limits due to the competitive nature.




SC... I sent you a mini after you beat me in the last comp. I'm really hoping you received it (and just forgot to mention it) because it was a Rackham Crow...:dong:

LavronYor
04-11-2007, 10:06 AM
well, vince, I like your double elimination idea...

Mosch
04-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Well, DrEvilMonki and I have made nice via PM so he's not that much of a weenie after all! :D (Or is it more complementary so say he a big, huge, MASSIVE weenie? These guy-things confuse me) :dizzy:


Three simple rules for that one: "He is" - decrease wiener size. "He has" - You're allowed to write several pages raving about size, strength, girth, the ability to club small mammals and detailing how you got all the information. "He was born in Vienna" - just go with your guts on this one.


And I still get a kick that you quoted me in your sig. Did I tell you I'm mostly German by heritage? And I'm always perfectly calm, aren't I? :angel:

Ha. I am probably kinda polish by heritage, though my grandfather does still have a Nazi document that makes him officially Aryan.
Do the polish have a reputation for untargeted, random and spontaneous rage? Whatever. I've been born in Germany and have never even been to poland. I'm probably mostly German, at least in mindset.


My father went through a similar event 3 years ago. Thought it was a heart attack but tests showed it wasn't. Scared the crap out of though and he's not smoked since (and no recurances).

So I hope yours is the same and it was nothing serious.

My father doesn't smoke - he pretty much has no vice he could give up except for maybe one or two beers a weekend which I really don't think is that bad for him. He was told visit several specialists now that he's been released (curious, I always they had those at the hospital. They don't.) and he's already up and about. He says he feels a little shaky, but he's pretty much back to his former self already.


This is completely relevant! We aren't just goofily named painters, we are actually a real community that is concerned with each other...I'm very glad to hear he is doing better, it had to be a very hard time for all involved.

I know, and I thank you all for your support. Still my father has nothing to do with the contest per se so it is kinda irrelevant ;)
(By the way, vikey, I have not forgotten you. As soon as I find a job and reliable way to actually pay my university fees I'll try to send some German sweets to you again ;))

Stupidcow
04-11-2007, 12:13 PM
SC... I sent you a mini after you beat me in the last comp. I'm really hoping you received it (and just forgot to mention it) because it was a Rackham Crow...:dong:

Well thanks alot but I'm afraid it might have been lost :(. Like I said before it doesn't really matters much but I appreciate your effort to send it.

@Mosch - Glad to know that your dad is well.

TAB Studio
04-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Vike,
Themes issued Friday?
Scores placed soon?

Just a bit antsy I am

supervike
04-11-2007, 12:57 PM
I guess I could make the matchups and themes as soon as anyone wants them....as the scores have no impact on that.

What do you folks think? Or should I build the drama??

Nathan Caroland
04-11-2007, 01:08 PM
Hey, we've got a system here, don't go mucking with it ... besides, I'd rather see them all shiver and wilt under the intense curiosity and need to know.

:vb_devil:

Ritual
04-11-2007, 01:26 PM
I'll be doing my scores and commenting in just a little short while. I'd say build the tension, Jim! :vb_devil:

DrEvilmonki
04-11-2007, 01:32 PM
No, DrEvilmonki will go back to shaking his wiener afterall.


Now that sir is WAY to much information! Think of the kiddies.

vincegamer
04-11-2007, 01:43 PM
I guess I could make the matchups and themes as soon as anyone wants them....as the scores have no impact on that.

What do you folks think? Or should I build the drama??

Save it. We always get 2 weeks and I don't want a round ending on a Wednesday.

supervike
04-11-2007, 02:32 PM
already drew names and matchup....


must not burst....must not burst.

Thryth
04-11-2007, 02:35 PM
already drew names and matchup....


must not burst....must not burst.

:poutcha:

:D

LavronYor
04-11-2007, 04:14 PM
So how many weeks until IP4?

callumrice
04-12-2007, 07:19 AM
Cant be long not Lavronyor. Another couple?

TAB Studio
04-12-2007, 08:42 AM
Save it. We always get 2 weeks and I don't want a round ending on a Wednesday.


Where is the logic here...

We get the info normally on Friday but the rounds do not end on Friday..

Cm-on vike throw us a bone huh,
Enquiring minds want to know.

Burst darn it.

Jubilee
04-12-2007, 10:30 AM
I also would prefer to stick to tradition and wait until tomorrow =)

/ali

Thryth
04-12-2007, 11:10 AM
Didn't the scores come-out on Thursday for round 1?

supervike
04-12-2007, 12:04 PM
Yep...usually I have the scores come out on Thursday...but I haven't received all the judges results yet....sorry.

Duende
04-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Don't look at me, I sent him mine already.

:D

Nathan Caroland
04-12-2007, 12:33 PM
That would be me - busy - sorry. Get them today.

Thryth
04-12-2007, 12:36 PM
Yep...usually I have the scores come out on Thursday...but I haven't received all the judges results yet....sorry.

That's cool. No rush. I was just saying that in regard to the previous post saying Friday.

Thanks. :)

vincegamer
04-12-2007, 01:37 PM
So 7 contestants and 1 judge didn't make the deadline?

Maybe I should be more impressed that they DID make the first thursday deadline since they had twice as many images to rate back then.
Think about it: for the contestants, each round gets harder, but for the judges, each round gets easier.

Ritual
04-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Think about it: for the contestants, each round gets harder, but for the judges, each round gets easier.

That's the beauty of the thing! :D

Nathan Caroland
04-12-2007, 09:06 PM
Got mine in, minus comments which I'll do in the gallery later this weekend as I'm just swamped right now. Like last time, I imagine I'm the last judge to get in the scores - sorry about that.

supervike
04-12-2007, 09:57 PM
ok...thanks Judges!! All in and accounted for. Now, as soon as I get my shoes off, I will begin the arduous task of figurin'.

I'll try to get it tonight, but I've some other work to do first....if not first thing in the morning.

Thanks for your patience and your persistance.

Also, tommorow I will announce the matchups and theme? Will Friday the `13th bode well for our contestants?

LavronYor
04-12-2007, 10:39 PM
there is no try, do or do not...... yoda

Duende
04-12-2007, 10:52 PM
I put my comments in with my scores like last time, which I'll paste later into the gallery. I suppose I gotta think of a second comment for vince since he's got a second picture in there. :D

(damn, I gotta think more!? This judging stuff makes my brain hurt. It's a good thing it gets easier every round ;))

supervike
04-13-2007, 09:48 AM
SCORES are in....this thread is moot!

http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=2307

good day!