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Sliver Chocobo
06-07-2011, 10:28 AM
Ok, in a brawl. say I had a duet and two Coryphée (A&B) the duet dances apart making two new Coryphée (C&D) each next to one of the old Coryphée
Now C&D can't use dance apart, but A&B can
So can the old Coryphée dance together with the new ones to make two new duets
Zephir
06-07-2011, 10:30 AM
Aren't Coryphee rare 2?
Sliver Chocobo
06-07-2011, 10:31 AM
Aren't Coryphee rare 2?
The rare count goes up 4 in a brawl
Raythus
06-07-2011, 10:31 AM
Is this for a Scrap or a brawl? You can't have more than 2 Coryphée on the table during a scrap as that would exceed their Rare 2 limitation
EDIT: In a brawl that should be fine, as the Coryphée aren't limited to which specific partner they combine with; it would have to be the unactivated Coryphée using Dance Together though I believe, but am now uncertain...
Koali
06-07-2011, 10:33 AM
How is this possible?
Chorrys arer RARE 2,.. so ther would never be more than 2.
EDIT:
AH Brawls...
I would say that this is gonna work... because only c+D are not allowed to take the dance together action, whitch the do not do in your example.
Sliver Chocobo
06-07-2011, 10:35 AM
How is this possible?
Chorrys arer RARE 2,.. so ther would never be more than 2.
You can take four in a brawl
Raythus
06-07-2011, 10:37 AM
I'm unsure of the wording under Dance Apart and Dance Together - if it specifies that the Coryphée can't use one after already using the other, then I believe that trying to use a second Coryphée (or should that be third?) would fail...
Sliver Chocobo
06-07-2011, 10:39 AM
Is this for a Scrap or a brawl? You can't have more than 2 Coryphée on the table during a scrap as that would exceed their Rare 2 limitation
EDIT: In a brawl that should be fine, as the Coryphée aren't limited to which specific partner they combine with; it would have to be the unactivated Coryphée using Dance Together though I believe, but am now uncertain...
The problem is once a duet dance apart those two Coryphée can't take the dance together action, however would intoducing two other Coryphée change this
Raythus
06-07-2011, 10:44 AM
That's entirely dependant on the wording. If it specifies that those specific figures can't use it with each other, then you can use a different Coryphée to join together, whereas if it states that the model cannot use it again during the round then your nifty trick won't work =P If I had the book with me, I might be able to get a better idea but as I'm currently stuck at work I'm sorry I couldn't be more help =s
Koali
06-07-2011, 10:57 AM
There is no wording like can not use...
Ther is the wording the can not TAKE the action.
So now its your turn... :) You are the native speakers... :D
Raythus
06-07-2011, 11:01 AM
If it says the model is not allowed to take the action in that round of activation, then you won't be able to use it again, even with a different Coryphée I'm afraid.
LoboStele
06-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Yeah, I'm quite sure that the intent is that if a Coryphee has split apart during a turn, it can't recombine.
Koali
06-07-2011, 11:11 AM
No there is no word of allowing...
The model may not take this action during this turn.
I always read this as.... the model is not allowed to make the the action.
Could this be readed as tis model can not be the "taget" of that action?
Raythus
06-07-2011, 11:16 AM
With Dance Together and Dance Apart, it requires both Coryphée to be together, yes, and then sacrifice the models. The second Coryphée (the one who isn't using the action to Dance Together or Apart) is being targetted as such, but is a requirement for the action to occur. Dance Apart, however, means that both Coryphée cannot use Dance Together as an effect on the Duet is applied to both (i.e you split the wounds, counters and inability to use the action again)
Does that make more sense?
Ratty
06-07-2011, 11:23 AM
If you have a Duet and 2 individual Coryphee. Call the individuals A & B. The Duet Dances apart to make C & D. C & D can't take the Dance Together action. A or B can. A can take the action and sacrifice B, C or D. There is nothing stopping C & D being sacrificed by another model Dancing Together, they just can't take the action themselves.
Raythus
06-07-2011, 11:24 AM
Ahaarrr, thanks for the clarification, Ratty, and my subsequent excuse to never play a Collette gang during a brawl ;)
mangustheix
06-07-2011, 11:57 AM
Ahaarrr, thanks for the clarification, Ratty, and my subsequent excuse to never play a Collette gang during a brawl ;)
what, the ramos/toolkit combo giving colette automatic disappearing act kills didnt stop you before?
Raythus
06-07-2011, 12:01 PM
I hadn't heard that one before.
Never playing a brawl. Never
Ratty
06-07-2011, 12:06 PM
Brawls are manageable. Even though the toolkit/Collette combo is nasty, there is nothing stopping you killing the toolkit, Df3 3Wds is hardly impossible to deal with.
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