View Full Version : Obey,Reflect Magic and Masters.
04-06-2011, 03:35 AM
Now I know I heard from someone that you can't cast obey's on Masters. First and foremost I wanted to know if that was accurate.
Secondly I wanted to know if for instance,Perdita casts Obey on a witchling stalker,witchling stalker defends with a high enough tome to reflect the spell back.
Would this allow you to make Perdita take any 1 action?
Also...would you then be able to say (1) drain soul on Nino,santiago and francisco who were all standing nearby?
04-06-2011, 04:36 AM
Well the first line of obey states target non master model. So thats an easy one.
I would say that if the witchling stalker reflected magic onto perdita, the spell would fizzle as it is then targeting a master, not a non-master model.
And when you control Perdita she does not count her former crew as friendly models, but I think she does count your own, so if they were your Nino, etc, then she could. (Relevent for things like Alpha which can target masters)
04-06-2011, 07:52 AM
Adran has it right.
Except that the model being Obeyed is Neutral.
So no friendly models at all.
04-06-2011, 08:12 AM
Actualy thats not right any more sandwich.
Any time a model is controled by the crew that hired it the model will be friendly per the new book. Page 13
"A model is Friendly when It was hired by a crew and is under that crews control"
04-06-2011, 08:46 AM
Yup that one's a great clarifier... Neutral state which never really existed is now even less in existence.
I'd actually say the reflected spell works though. Reflect doesn't say the caster becomes the target, it says the caster is affected by the spell.
you could argue the part about being as if this model were the caster means all conditions apply but I don't think the wording of reflect magic is specific enough for that.
04-06-2011, 09:18 AM
Yes but the description says non master model does X. Even if some how targeted the effect of the spell does not apply
04-06-2011, 09:23 PM
Ok that makes sense I suppose.
04-07-2011, 11:40 AM
Right you can never obey a master. It breaks the game. :)
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