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Sandwich
03-20-2011, 06:07 PM
Asking for novelty sake I suppose,

Ca(:crows:masks)Plague[Bleeding Disease]: After damaging Defender with this Spell, Cast this spell again at a -2 Ca.

(0)Useless Toy: Sacrifice target friendly model within 6". This model receives :+fate :+fate to all Attack and Defense Flips during its next action.

Question =

Does each consecutive cast of (1)Bleeding Disease receive a :+fate :+fate, or is just the first cast that does?

RAW I'm fairly certain the intent is obvious, but.

Second, that -2 Ca doesn't say cumulative, is it supposed to?

Sandwich
03-20-2011, 06:10 PM
Also, I don't have the new manual, so if the definition of an attack has changed, let me know and then disregard this post, please.

Wodschow
03-20-2011, 06:44 PM
None of the casting flips would receive any :+fate at all, not even the first one.

The attack flip is only used during a Strike sequence - an unfortunate selection of words, just like 'defense flip' is ambigious as it's not clear whether they mean the Df-stat or the defense flip used in the Strike sequences.


Even if the above wasn't true I believe the answer to your original question would be that only the first cast would receive the :+fate's as his trigger generates a new Cast(-action).


Edit:
What's even more confusing is that ranged and melee spells refer to the modifiers for attacks and in the table all the modifiers refer to the attack flip even though there is no such thing when you're casting spells.. =x

tenabrae
03-20-2011, 06:54 PM
I beleive with spell casting it is an attack flip in the case of a resisted spell.

You're right though, it'd only work for the first cast, the trigger is then generating a new action.