Terraclips Update [Archive]

EricJ

01-24-2011, 02:34 PM

the final quality review is a look over of the finalized product, to make sure we don't end up like we were at Gencon, with a product we didn't feel measured up.

We didn't want to give a final time frame, because as we've learned with this process that unexpected delays crop up. However, the reason we're putting this up now, is because we feel like it's on the home stretch, and T-clips should be available sooner rather than later :D (is that vague enough for you?)

LoboStele

01-24-2011, 02:43 PM

Awesome! And this kind of update is perfect, and really goes a long way to satisfying people in their waiting, IMO. Well done, Wyrd team.

Definitely looking forward to these. We have a pretty fair amount of terrain at our LGS already, but I'm certain we could use some of these for some more Indoor locations, for sure!

bringer of death

01-24-2011, 02:55 PM

Eric that is vague
but it will keep me from spending alot on terrain
i just need to keep it together :boom:

Sliver Chocobo

01-24-2011, 03:14 PM

*:D Dances with joy*

I think I might have caught something from Hazyel, oh well *starts eating a giant cookie*

Ratty

01-24-2011, 03:16 PM

*:D Dances with joy*

I think I might have caught something from Hazyel, oh well *starts eating a giant cookie*

Remember to always use protection... My suggestion is heavy power armour and a big sword.

Sholto

01-24-2011, 04:01 PM

Forgot to ask - any changes to the price?

Owen Ojo De Lobo

01-24-2011, 04:57 PM

Ok, I'm looking also for this... I'm planning to buy at least two of them, to make possible to play a huge variety of games... An scape from prison, an attemp to pass to Quarantine Zone via sewers... A lot of possibilities!! :D

Sliver Chocobo

01-24-2011, 05:23 PM

Remember to always use protection... My suggestion is heavy power armour and a big sword.

We are talking about Hazyel here, she might like that ;)

xxXhayzelXxx

01-24-2011, 05:24 PM

We are talking about Hazyel here, she might like that ;)

Or maybe she wouldnt....

Ratty

01-24-2011, 05:25 PM

Or maybe she wouldnt....

Even the Blood Angel armour that has nipples and a six pack sculpted on?

Sliver Chocobo

01-24-2011, 05:32 PM

Or maybe she wouldnt....

*Put the power armour on*
WAIT this power armour is covered in fur and Wuv heart on it, and sword is a lollipop

Ratty

01-24-2011, 05:38 PM

*Put the power armour on*
WAIT this power armour is covered in fur and Wuv heart on it, and sword is a lollipop

Ah... Space Wolves armour.

Wodschow

01-24-2011, 05:44 PM

Why do you have to chat-room-ify so many threads? :/

Whatever.. I really liked that diagram Eric, nice way of putting it xD

The Green Git

01-24-2011, 05:53 PM

Yeah for Terraclips! The sooner the better.

Ah... Space Wolves armour.

Now THAT is funny. :)

Clousseau

01-24-2011, 06:08 PM

Magic. Hoping to have a tournament based around these kits in early June, so fingers tightly crossed.

darkendlight

01-24-2011, 06:43 PM

I am looking forward to seeing the new product. The old product for all the problems was fun to put together at GenCon.

elril

01-24-2011, 07:10 PM

I am looking forward to seeing the new product. The old product for all the problems was fun to put together at GenCon.

Heh, "fun" wasn't the word the henchmen were telling me at Gencon...

eturns

01-24-2011, 09:33 PM

Magic. Hoping to have a tournament based around these kits in early June, so fingers tightly crossed.

will have too keep an eye on this, is a proper wooden spoon available?

Vlad the Mad

01-24-2011, 10:37 PM

Great news! About when do you expect we'll be seeing these in stores?

Soundwave

01-25-2011, 01:40 AM

Awesome stuff!

Now I won't have to use the work printer to print all those hundreds of pdf's...

loganproudbeard

01-25-2011, 04:47 AM

cant wait!!! :1:

Genetic

01-25-2011, 05:22 AM

i believed this was already asked, how much will the price change??

Absolution Black

01-25-2011, 07:01 AM

Great news!! For someone as lazy as me who can't be bothered to make their own terrain, this will be a godsend!

I'd better start putting some money aside...

daemonkin

01-25-2011, 08:41 AM

Just when I started printing out my terrainLinx tiles for making my modular boards...

Nice one Wyrd and WWG! ;-)

D.

Shadowopal

01-25-2011, 08:56 AM

WooT! and a Yea!:marshmell

EdgeDs

01-25-2011, 09:24 AM

come on guys their is only so much my landlord can do with sticky tape and empty coke boxes. Actually for the materials he works with he makes some great stuff :D.

MunkeyKungFu

01-25-2011, 11:04 AM

Remember to always use protection... My suggestion is heavy power armour and a big sword.

False NAme & Address usually helps as well :D

nilus

01-25-2011, 11:11 AM

False NAme & Address usually helps as well :D

Also a hair piece and a fake mustache.

karn987

01-25-2011, 11:37 AM

Wooo! And a pretty graphic to go with the status update!

Sholto

01-25-2011, 12:33 PM

Thought you might all want to see this, from the same announcement thread over on WWG:-

http://incunabulum.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tclips_trans.jpg

Indoor locations :)

Nathan Caroland

01-25-2011, 12:36 PM

You should show off your game board while your at it David. :) Saw that over there too!

Unless I missed it here somewhere.

Sholto

01-25-2011, 12:51 PM

You should show off your game board while your at it David. :) Saw that over there too!

Unless I missed it here somewhere. You certainly have (http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14084) :)

Sliver Chocobo

01-25-2011, 12:54 PM

Thought you might all want to see this, from the same announcement thread over on WWG:-

http://incunabulum.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tclips_trans.jpg

Indoor locations :)
I guess I to have to make a desplay stand for my models now

XCoconutMonkey6X

01-25-2011, 12:58 PM

So a friend made a good observation in the above pic. Why are the new clips in the shaded area of the board where they can't be tested to reflect light where the old clips are?

Nathan Caroland

01-25-2011, 01:09 PM

You can find a response from one of the fellas over there. They've got pictures 'out' of the shadows as well, no trickery intended.

http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122529#122529

LoboStele

01-25-2011, 01:12 PM

Very cool! May have to pick up some just simply for putting under pieces in a display case!

XCoconutMonkey6X

01-25-2011, 01:15 PM

Either way, I'm psyched! I like how thinner the clips are so models shouldn't be too wobbly if they're on top of them. I would have bought a set or two of the pre-fixed stuff so I'm happy with the direction :friday:

WWG Denny

01-25-2011, 02:40 PM

You can find a response from one of the fellas over there. They've got pictures 'out' of the shadows as well, no trickery intended.

http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122529#122529

Here's one more with equal lighting :) Its a fairly substantial difference.

http://wyrd-games.net/forum/[img]http://www.worldworksgames.com/tclips_trans2.jpghttp://www.worldworksgames.com/tclips_trans2.jpg

Nathan Caroland

01-25-2011, 03:18 PM

See, what Denny said. :)

Thanks Denny for popping over and clarifying it for folks.

Ratty

01-25-2011, 03:22 PM

They look absolutely brilliant. I will have to see what they are like in the flesh. I might use the clips or use some other techniques to combine the printed cards.

Griffsnog

01-25-2011, 03:39 PM

these are neato! looks like I can hold off on the molds and foamcore

XCoconutMonkey6X

01-25-2011, 05:04 PM

I am so sold!!! I will pray to the great Breach now for no quality or production hang-ups cause I want these like yesterday! Great work!!

User Name

01-26-2011, 03:23 AM

these look amazing, out of curiosity, (im sure its been answered) whats the material used? plastic, cardboard or what?

Sholto

01-26-2011, 04:01 AM

1.7mm thick matte board, with satin finish on both sides. Should be fairly robust, more like a game board than cardstock. Here's hoping, anyway :)

aka_hazard

01-26-2011, 04:02 AM

I wasn't planning to buy these before but now having seen them with the new clips I will be buying a pack or two.
Great work and I'm glad you held off launching until you were happy with the product.

User Name

01-26-2011, 05:33 AM

even if they turn out a little flimsy, a secondary matte finish would beef it up im sure. But I am DEFINITELY liking what i see.

boothdom

01-26-2011, 08:58 AM

Echo everyone's sentiment here, I'm really excited that these are finally on the horizon.

Couple of questions that I don't think have been answered yet (appologies if they have). Do we know what is actually in the packs, i.e. do you get clips or do you need to buy them separately? What area will one pack cover? 3'x3' is pretty big. The word I've had from the supplier over here (UK) is that they'll cover "a suitable playing area" which is pretty non-commital. Is the price due to change?

Maelstrom games have the listed as being released on the 29/1/11, which seems a bit punchy as the've not gone to manafacture yet. I'm thinking of pre-ordering to get them as soon as, but would like the above blanks filled in before I part with my hard earned, just so I don't get dissapointed on day one (I envisage having a foot square of card and no clips to hold it together with! :))

Thanks in advance, and I appriciate the effort and care that's gone in to making sure this product is top draw before release. Good things and all........

Cheers,

Dom

Hatchethead

01-26-2011, 12:01 PM

I've had a wad of cash earmarked for these since GenCon. Thanks for the progress update. Keep those QA standards high!

nerdelemental

01-27-2011, 07:08 AM

1.7mm thick matte board, with satin finish on both sides. Should be fairly robust, more like a game board than cardstock. Here's hoping, anyway :)

They are very much substantial and durable. The version I had my hands on at Gen Con were good, these should be thicker. Like the chipboard you get in a good board game like Carcassone or Settlers, only I think they use even less than 1.7mm.

Seventeen

02-04-2011, 10:29 AM

...Couple of questions that I don't think have been answered yet (appologies if they have).

Do we know what is actually in the packs, i.e. do you get clips or do you need to buy them separately?

What area will one pack cover? 3'x3' is pretty big. The word I've had from the supplier over here (UK) is that they'll cover "a suitable playing area" which is pretty non-commital.

Assuming they're sticking to the original vision (other than going from 1.5 mm to 1.7 mm cardstock), a single set $49 should cover approx 6 square feet or 2/3 of a game table. Each box will have 16 10"x14" punchboards of double-sided terrain and 1 connector pack containing 40 T-Clips, 40 L-Clips & 40 I-Clips. Get 2 sets and you cover a 3x3 board plus have a second layer for 1/3 of the board, either from sewers up into the streets or up into building.

All for under $100 assuming no price increase.

Looking forward to it's release!

boothdom

02-04-2011, 11:24 AM

Each box will have 16 10"x14" punchboards of double-sided terrain and 1 connector pack containing 40 T-Clips, 40 L-Clips & 40 I-Clips. Get 2 sets and you cover a 3x3 board plus have a second layer for 1/3 of the board, either from sewers up into the streets or up into building.

Hmmm, for the 2/3rd of a table, 16 tiles equation to work, it means the tiles will be 6"x9". And if, as stated, the punchboards are 10"x14", that leaves plenty of room on the board for extras like walls and stuff.....Here's hoping! :)

Cheers for the info,

Dom

hendecatope

02-04-2011, 12:02 PM

I am really looking forward to these.

Hatchethead

02-04-2011, 01:02 PM

cain

02-05-2011, 10:22 AM

Hatchethead

02-05-2011, 10:30 AM

I dont think so.
If you really want to "ninja-measure" you could premeasure any terrain pieces and distance between them before the game starts.
Thats something you do not need terraclips squaretiles for.
True enough, and I hope you're right, but Terraclips basically lay a grid over the majority of gaming surface (at least, that's the impression I get from the pics (http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/products/tc1/tcpromo3.jpg) I've seen). The potential for accurate guesstimation goes well beyond simply knowing the dimension and distance of pre-placed terrain pieces.

I love me some Terraclips and plan to purchase, but I'm curious about this particular aspect of the tiles.

dgraz

02-05-2011, 11:47 AM

Regarding the grid pattern that appears to carry across the majority of Terraclip terrain, is there any concern that ninja-measuring will become a problem? If I know each square is 1 inch square, for instance, it becomes much easier to gauge charge distances, ranged attacks, etc. Just curious, was this by design?
I am also concerned about this. However, no one really gains an advantage. The playing field is level since both players can easily see the grid. I think the beauty, versatility, and sturdiness of this product will far outweigh any concerns over that.

Ratty

02-05-2011, 11:53 AM

I think if anything it's more likely to level the playing field a bit. I know that after wargaming for about 20 years I can judge distances without the grid almost spot on. However a newer player can't do this, so it removes some of my advantage. TBH I think who wins should be down to tactics rather than which player can judge distances better.

aka_hazard

02-05-2011, 12:05 PM

Experience doesn't always count, I've wargamed for a while and I'm still useless at gauging distances.
It's one of the many reasons I enjoy Flames of War where pre-measuring and stating intent are the norm.

TBH I think who wins should be down to tactics rather than which player can judge distances better.
Quoted for truth.

Hatchethead

02-05-2011, 04:37 PM

TBH I think who wins should be down to tactics rather than which player can judge distances better.
Quoted for ... additional truthiness? I dunno.

Anywho, I agree. Clever use of models and their unique abilities will win games moreso than eyeballing the difference between 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch.

It was more a question of whether this was by design and, I suppose, if the grid is a vague indication of Malifaux (maybe, possibly) moving toward a system of pre-measuring.

loganproudbeard

02-06-2011, 11:48 AM

i hope they dont go to pre measure, i like the way it flows as it is now.

really think the grid system isnt going to effect the way the game is played

zero

02-23-2011, 10:55 PM

Wodschow

02-24-2011, 05:43 AM

What is the up to date word on this item?

i have had a preorder in for months.... should have invested the money and bought an additional one already.

honestly though, anyone know what is happening?

The OP of this thread is the up to date wording on this.

Seems we'll have to wait a little longer, like end of March? Hard to read the timeline on the picture.

Watcher

03-06-2011, 05:56 PM

I know that a lot of people are anxiously awaiting the terrain packs to become available, myself included. It would be really nice if they were available by the end of March, 2011.

Pandawithissue

03-14-2011, 10:25 AM

Maelstrom have a clock ticker counting down to the release of new products. It said 103 days from today until the release of Streets of Malifaux, indicating end of June

Don't know whether that is accurate or not, probably an optimistic estimate.

Ratty

03-14-2011, 10:31 AM

WEiRD sKeTCH

03-14-2011, 10:31 AM

What does the counter say for Duke Nukem forever? if it says 102 days I would start worrying.
I have faith for Duke!

Ratty

03-14-2011, 10:34 AM

I have faith for Duke!

I think it is more likely we will see a movie of Duke Nukem before we ever see Forever.

(Hopefully with Bruce Campbell as the duke)

Wodschow

03-14-2011, 10:38 AM

What does the counter say for Duke Nukem forever? if it says 102 days I would start worrying.

Awesome reply.. :D

Anyway, it would be nice with a little extra update ;) Could we possibly get a little hint as to where in the outlined process you are now? :)

WEiRD sKeTCH

03-14-2011, 10:53 AM

I think it is more likely we will see a movie of Duke Nukem before we ever see Forever.

(Hopefully with Bruce Campbell as the duke)
Whut?

May be NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuuyRGB_BA

May 3rd in the States.

Sliver Chocobo

03-14-2011, 10:59 AM

Whut?

May be NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuuyRGB_BA

May 3rd in the States.

Are you sure it isn't december 2012

Pandawithissue

03-14-2011, 11:01 AM

Terraclips

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=sea&cat=pre&sea=&pag=4

DNF

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As ever, take both with a mound of salt.

Kuffdaddy

04-27-2011, 09:34 PM

Dates???

been looking and have now ordered some of the other paper terrain from worldworks they are actually kinda fun to use
I will be ordering three of each set and a new crew to go along with it

tadaka

04-27-2011, 10:18 PM

Eh I could be wrong but my guess is they will be out gencon this year.

Omenbringer

04-28-2011, 12:08 AM

August is about when World Works games said they would be released on their website.

Inquisitor Wall

04-29-2011, 09:14 PM

I just received an email from a distributor listing them as a May release. Seems odd but would be awesome.

Nathan Caroland

04-29-2011, 10:59 PM

We'll announce it you can be sure.

And no, not in May.

Manicmac

05-01-2011, 12:20 PM

Curiouser and Curiouser. What is the "problem", if indeed there is one Nathan?

WWG Denny

05-01-2011, 02:13 PM

August is about when World Works games said they would be released on their website.

Just to be clear, WWG made no mention of an August release date. That may have been a comment from the initial reveal at last years GenCon, when we had a different view of where we stood with manufacturing.

Very excited to share details when it's appropriate though!!!

(TV)

05-01-2011, 04:55 PM

Keep up the good work. We want it bad, but It's worth waiting for the best possible product. This design could be so incredibly useful for the "portable" venues such as the university crowd I work with. Very excited!

Regards,
TV

Omenbringer

05-01-2011, 05:32 PM

Just to be clear, WWG made no mention of an August release date. That may have been a comment from the initial reveal at last years GenCon, when we had a different view of where we stood with manufacturing.

Very excited to share details when it's appropriate though!!!

Implied at the earliest was probably a better description of the thread from the World Works Games forum (http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122529#122529). Sorry about that.