Gunsmith and Bite of Winter

[HeaDHunTeRfs]

Okay, this almost happend in a game a few days ago.

Example:

The Gunsmith is within 4 inches of rasputina (so he has "frozen heart") A Gamin within 6 inches of the Gunsmith pops "bite of winter". The gunsmith gets +1dmg against targets without armor.

He decides he wants to ignore armor, and shoots a freikorp. He ignors the freikorp's armor, but does he also get the +1dmg?

Example:

Same as above, except he uses leadstorm against targets without armor, does he also get the +1dmg from "bite of winter"?

Hopefully these aren't to n00bish questions ;)

Thx in advance
Fabian

[Wodschow]

He decides he wants to ignore armor, and shoots a freikorp. He ignors the freikorp's armor, but does he also get the +1dmg?

Good question.. I'd be inclined to say no, but could see it go either way.


Same as above, except he uses leadstorm against targets without armor, does he also get the +1dmg from "bite of winter"?

Leadstorm causes a pulse, and pulses do by definition not target anything, as Bite of Winter only adds damage against targets he'd not benefit from the bonus damage.

[HeaDHunTeRfs]

Thank you for the answere, but I still would like to hear more people's opinions about the first question...

I also think it's no. But when you think outside the box for a minute you would understand why it could have the extra dmg :D

[Buhallin]

I'd be inclined to say no as well. Even though he's ignoring it, the target does still have armor. Ignoring it just says he's not affected by it, not that the ability vanishes.

[Rathnard]

I'd be inclined to say no as well. Even though he's ignoring it, the target does still have armor. Ignoring it just says he's not affected by it, not that the ability vanishes.

That's my thinking on it exactly.

[Sandwich]

Ignores |= Removes.

Like Pandora's The Box Opens.
It doesn't allow her to ignore things like Immune to Influence, it outright removes it.


So yes you can ignore the Armor, but you cannot remove it.