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gunpowder saint
09-30-2010, 10:26 AM
tell me your not waiting for the GUILD HORSEMAN! you can't! it's a Lie! I know for a fact that either the Outcasts or the Guild will be getting a horseman, think about it....

4 main factions
4 horseman of the apocalypse

Death- Dead Rider
Pestilence- Hooded Rider
Famine- Mechanical Rider
War- Guild Rider

or that's what I think... no one at my Local Game Store shares my enthusiasm of this brilliant idea though lol so I come to the forums.

nerdelemental
09-30-2010, 10:51 AM
;)


How is the Hooded Rider Pestilence? How is the Mechanical Famine?

Nutcase168
09-30-2010, 10:57 AM
and if they're all constructs Leviticus can run all 4 in one list. Been talked about in the outcast forums before.

thaehl
09-30-2010, 11:14 AM
;)


How is the Hooded Rider Pestilence? How is the Mechanical Famine?

It was an allusion to the Biblically scholarly as is Leviticus' whole persona, The Hooded Rider in the Bible is depicted as wearing a hood, he is famine thus the horse he rides lacking a stomach, it is starved. The Mechanical Rider (Plague) is depicted with a bow and arrow, the mechanical rider does not have one, but rather a javelin, the only rider thus far to have a ranged attack. The horse itself is not alive, and the biblical rider carried the bow signifying that there was no hiding from plague, the javelin serves the same purpose. Leviticus like I mentioned earlier is a living interpretation of a Lazerous pit, a Biblical tale from the book of Leviticus.

WEiRD sKeTCH
09-30-2010, 11:35 AM
Nerd knows that much, I'm sure.

If you noticed in the original post, he was pointing out the switch. ;)

blakeh1
09-30-2010, 02:05 PM
Leviticus like I mentioned earlier is a living interpretation of a Lazerous pit, a Biblical tale from the book of Leviticus.

I don't remember a Lazerous pit in the bible, wasn't that just something out of Batman comic series?

Lazerous was in the New Testament, Leviticus is the Old Testament

of course with the Four Horseman mention I now have that Metallica song stuck in my head

Sliver Chocobo
09-30-2010, 02:34 PM
to my understanding
the first rider is pesterlance has a bow (Mechanical?)
the red rider called War weilds a sword (AKA hooded rider)
the black rider named famine carries a set of weighing scales (Guild rider, fits with lady J)
and the pale rider know as death came with a scythe (undead rider)

alemon
09-30-2010, 04:45 PM
so what you're saying is...Lady J is coming back as the guild rider?

That's what you just said.
You said that.

Hey guys, Silver Chocobo said Lady J is coming back as a rider.

Angus Khan
09-30-2010, 05:00 PM
I don't remember a Lazerous pit in the bible, wasn't that just something out of Batman comic series?


Yup, definitely Batman. Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Pit)

Lazarus from the bible was the man Jesus brought back to life. ;)

nilus
09-30-2010, 05:16 PM
Wait are we saying Leviticus is Ra's al Ghul?

Illustrange
09-30-2010, 06:02 PM
pestilence is never named as such nor associated with the white rider in the bible, its the association with apollo (arrows) by some theologists that gave him that status in pop culture.
assuming the riders are *negative* from a heavenly point of view (wich is debatable as the scripts describing them leave alot of interpretation.) then a maybe even more likely candidate for the first rider would be false prophepecies/lies/unholy zeal etc. (the crown, the described *lightness* etc. all give the interpretation of a heroic and good personality, yet the bow has no arrows (wich kind of nullifies the apollo/pestilence association.) so can mean empty promises.)

it also makes more sense in the order of their arrival, empty words/lies lead to war/struggle wich leads to faminine/emptyness wich leads to death/void/the end.



based on that Id say :
white horse/pestilence = mechanical rider (mages, unions, organised crime it does fit a biblical false prophet thing.)
red horse/war = hooded rider
black horse/famine = Guild rider (the famine rider specifically measures and judges people, so thats a no brainer ;))
pale horse/death = Dead rider

but thats assuming the above mentioned hypothesis.
based on colors, the dead rider's horse is closest to pale (death.) hooded rider is closest to white (lets keep calling him pestilence.) and the mechanical rider is black (famine.) leaving the red horse (war) as a potential guild rider. this combo isnt really without further interpretation either... the hooded rider has alot to do with light (the place of the sun.) was the first (neverborn being the oldest faction of the 4) and it is their world (crown.) that said, the mechanical rider doesnt really measure well with famine.

what does it all mean ? that you can easily back up any theory with interpretation ;)

is there even coming a fourth rider ?

Murphy'sLawyer
09-30-2010, 06:50 PM
The fourth rider is already here (http://wyrd-games.net/shop/product.php?productid=16232&cat=262&page=1). Haven't you guys read him yet? He is the rider known as Apocalypse, and he brings the smell whereever he rides.

Just don't ask what it is.

Illustrange
09-30-2010, 06:59 PM
well... he does complete color circle (red was missing.) and IS called a WAR pig after all ;)

Illustrange
09-30-2010, 07:10 PM
thats the big change coming,
rams will become pigs/boars, and the gremlins will become the fourth main faction, while the guild is all ripped apart and spread out among the other factions,
Lady J joins the resurrection, the Ortegaz go outcast (or worse... turn out to have a lot in coming with the gremlins, Perdita and Ophelia becoming BFFs) or Abuela throws a shotgun wedding between nino and nekima... its not yet decided.
both Hoffmann and Criid go arcanist, and as its getting crowded there it causes Rasputina to leave (since she likes evil creatures she joins up with the neverborn.. despite heavy objections by Lilith.) while having two lovechilds with Zoraida, Marcus decides to stay with the arcanists, but the two still meet in secret.
the Governor general and Lucius both turned out to be gremlins in disguise.

Leviticus contemplated joining the resurrection but he kept dying and this frustrated Nicodem, shouting out "its UNdead ok !? not dead-alive-dead-alive" besides his young-women fetish freaked the ressers out. (kirai was glad she was too old for his tastes.)

Hamelin ran into a swamp filled with bug eating frogs, now he is just an empty shell.. he is plotting a return tough.

Viktorias are no more, just one Viktoria, the doppelganger turned out to be killjoy in disguise, wich completely freaked her out (not to mention the many men either of them dated, especially the one who was with her/him/it during the big revelation), she painted her skin green and is the first non-gremlin gremlin mistress.
killjoy followed, he likes pigs.


there
I spoiled all ;)

Murphy'sLawyer
09-30-2010, 07:18 PM
You forgot to start your post with "Spoiler". :y:

Now my Christmas is ruined.:eviltongu

Iamwyrd
09-30-2010, 07:19 PM
Nice.....that is all. Lol

gunpowder saint
09-30-2010, 07:20 PM
T_T
it's so obviously not true, but yet... personifies all my fears lol
IE Sonnia leaving the guild. But honestly i think you remember my post about that so now your just making fun of me. lol

Illustrange
09-30-2010, 07:29 PM
I wouldnt dare :p












but it is meant as the harmless kind of fun ;) I myself love rampant speculation as well :)

AvatarForm
09-30-2010, 08:12 PM
If this becomes true, Im definitely shelving my neverborn for Leveticus...

and if the sculpts are rubbish, Im making my own...

The PS3 game Darksiders gives an awesome version of these 4 characters... especially their weaponry and concept art, which I have the book of.

Sliver Chocobo
10-01-2010, 03:20 PM
so what you're saying is...Lady J is coming back as the guild rider?

That's what you just said.
You said that.

Hey guys, Silver Chocobo said Lady J is coming back as a rider.

I ment it fits in with the theme

Werecat
10-01-2010, 03:33 PM
I ment it fits in with the theme


Nope, too late man. You've spilled the beans. No take backs!

Sliver Chocobo
10-02-2010, 12:25 PM
Nope, too late man. You've spilled the beans. No take backs!


I don't work for wyrd.....


Yet,

or a lest a don't think i do? it could explane the holes in my memory

Murphy'sLawyer
10-02-2010, 05:55 PM
or a lest a don't think i do? it could explane the holes in my memoryNo meth does. :brushteet