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rvrchamp
08-15-2010, 05:05 PM
Hello all! As the title says, and post count implies, I'm a new player and just played my first game yesterday. Guild vs neverborn... My opponent is also a new player, so you can imagine the frustrations and mistakes that we made. I looked over the FAQ and errata this morning, but am still scratching my head over a few points.

Perhaps you guys n gals can help?

1) Has anyone created any "cheat sheets" yet? The lack of an index was incredibly frustrating as the summary is quite incomplete. We spend nearly the same time thumbing through pages to find the meaning of terms and abilities as we did playing (I read the rulebook twice, he hasn't read it at all).

2) Is there any condensed, easy to read/understand compilation of rules changes, erratas, ect for neverborn? I read this morning that Pandora and her crew has been changed quite a bit, but beyond the change to link I'm not sure what else is different.

3) Along the lines of the above questions, with regard to the errata's, are the cards correct or are they too in need of change?

Onwards to questions regarding the actual game...

4) Pandora's trigger "Mental Anguish" (MA) won me the game all by it's lonesome, but I'm not convinced we were using the fall back rules correctly. The way I understand the fall back rules is that once an opponent loses a wp duel and she triggers MA they immediately move twice their wk towards the nearest table edge, then the fleeing model spends its next activation doing nothing.

a) If a model had not yet activated on the turn that Pandora forced it to fall back, is this model able to still activate this turn to rally or does it need to wait until the next turn to rally (thereby effectively losing two turns)?

b) If a model has activated on the turn that Pandora forced it to fall back am I correct in understanding that it cannot rally until the next turn?

5) If Candy poisons a model that already had poison counters, she merely replaces a lower number of counters with a higher number (in her case a maximum of 2)

6) If a model has gunfighter, can Candy force that model to attack itself with a ranged weapon?

7) When the guild character Papa Loco makes his "take ya with me" attack, does he need to do a df duel against each model in the pulse?

Thanks for the help!

Wodschow
08-15-2010, 05:20 PM
1: You might want to look here:
http://tabletopgeeks.com/malifaux-downloads/

2: Well I dunno what you've read, but the only recent changes are the link I think.

3: They should be, albeit if you bought the miniatures recently they might be 'V2' and thus ahead of their time as V2 errata hasn't yet been published in a pdf-document.

4: I think this is how it works: At first do nothing, next time the victim activates fall back its double Wk, end activation, second time the victim activates it gets 2AP, but cannot move. Untill after the second activation is over the model have negative twist on all flips.

5: Correct..

6: Only basic melee attacks, so no.. She can make them bash themselves though.. Not that it matters..

7: Papa Loco does one simple Ca duel.. Then each model in range does a Df resist duel.

rvrchamp
08-15-2010, 06:00 PM
1: You might want to look here:
http://tabletopgeeks.com/malifaux-downloads/


4: I think this is how it works: At first do nothing, next time the victim activates fall back its double Wk, end activation, second time the victim activates it gets 2AP, but cannot move. Untill after the second activation is over the model have negative twist on all flips.



Those cheat sheets are an absolute godsend! Thanks so much..

Also, I was under the idea that when a model is forced to fall back it moves immediately. Also, I thought the model couldn't preform any actions until after it rallied. Where was I wrong?

Wodschow
08-15-2010, 06:09 PM
Those cheat sheets are an absolute godsend! Thanks so much..

Also, I was under the idea that when a model is forced to fall back it moves immediately. Also, I thought the model couldn't preform any actions until after it rallied. Where was I wrong?

Thank the guys that uploaded them ;)

Not sure where you're wrong, the whole section is written in a somewhat cryptic way. I can point you in this direction though:
http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13757&highlight=mental+anguish
In that thread they pretty much go through it all :)

You probably missed out on the errata'ed part though. ;)

Xango
08-15-2010, 07:54 PM
I was going to help but wods have covered everything, with the fall back i just do a simple rule, you are falling back, next activation you have to use your 2 AP to rally, greetings.