New Guild Player

[seb2010]

Hi everyone,

I just started the guild. i played my first two games on friday. i won my first game and lost my second due to horrible hands and terrible flips. i have the lady j battle box and the exocutioner. im looking to add to it. i was thinking witchling stalkers then guild austringers. any suggestions?

[Jonas Albrecht]

Welcome to the side of peace, justice, and maximum soulstone production! Mostly that last one.


I suggest looking into the Ortega minions. I use them exclusively, and I see Nino make his way onto a lot of lists.

[seb2010]

thanks

i was looking at getting papa loco, but after i read his stats in the book, he didnt impress me, but nino seems pretty deadly at range

[Jonas Albrecht]

Papa Loco is a great control piece. He's there to explode, which puts some people off.

[Hand_of_Vecna]

He's ok for casual games and tourneys where you can change your list. I wouldn't run him against any crew with obey though.

[seb2010]

i'd still rater run nino though than papa loco...

[Jonas Albrecht]

He's ok for casual games and tourneys where you can change your list. I wouldn't run him against any crew with obey though.


Fortunately, that's a short list.



i'd still rater run nino though than papa loco...

Yeah, he's the star of the Ortegas.

[Pipeline]

id pick up the sonia and the ortega boxes.

[alemon]

Welcome!

I play the Family and the Witch hunters. Nino is most definitely an allstar, but papa loco is also a champ. I really like all of the Ortegas- I'd get their box just to see the difference between melee focus and range focus; Also, you get Perdita (who is still my favorite model).

[TimeLapse]

Hello and welcome to the Guild!!

You are off to a Great start with J box and the exey.

As for what to look into next I agree that you should look at Nino, good range.

But what else should be on you wish list?

First off look at the Governor's Proxy, It has the same CA and suit as Lady J, use him to buff your WP and cast Combat Prowess. Also his other spell is really good as well. He is just a great 2 point model to add.

next the witchling stalkers are a great cheep uint. The have scout and there good in Melee, a great model to give Melee master if the Exacutioner does not need it.

Next well tied with the stalkers I would look at the Convict Gunslinger, its just an all around handy Merc to add to any list. Also Hans is good if you need alot of long range, I have played with both Hans and Nino in games (mainly if im faceing another guild list) and it works out well for me.

Remember that Inspiring sword play adds to Range weapons CB too, making Nino a possable CB 11 and Hans CB 7, but thats if you kill something.

Hope this helps,
-Andrew

[Hand_of_Vecna]

Fortunately, that's a short list.

Short but popular, last tourney I went to had 8 players and there were 2 Perditas and a Zoraida. The next tourney is a brawl and there will be more obey than before at least one of the Perdita players is playing Perdita/Lady J and the Z player will be running Zoraida/Lillith. I was playing Lillith and I'll be running either Zoraida/Lillith, Seamus/Haemlin (don't have my book 2 yet for planning, or Seamus/Mcmourning with a minion Haemlin.

[Jonas Albrecht]

Short but popular, last tourney I went to had 8 players and there were 2 Perditas and a Zoraida. The next tourney is a brawl and there will be more obey than before at least one of the Perdita players is playing Perdita/Lady J and the Z player will be running Zoraida/Lillith. I was playing Lillith and I'll be running either Zoraida/Lillith, Seamus/Haemlin (don't have my book 2 yet for planning, or Seamus/Mcmourning with a minion Haemlin.

Hmm, I guess its time to come up with some ways of dealing with Obey.

But since you can't kill the model that you are Obeying, that might not be such a big challenge.

[nilus]

But since you can't kill the model that you are Obeying, that might not be such a big challenge.

You can't take an action that Sacrifices itself or causes it wounds. Which means that Papa Loco can be obeyed to Boom(since its a spell that causes damage). My forum-fu is weak this morning but there have been multiple discussions about it.

Obey is a powerful tool, but it has it limitations. Honestly in my Perdita crew I tend to use it on my own models more often then not. I am gonna test a new combo tomorrow where I use Grandma O to give the Executioner Family(using Shotgun Wedding) and then have him hang out with Her, Perdita and the enslaved Neph. That way I can in theory activate Companion on all 4, Obey him three times(with a good draw) and then have him activate. Should be a fun to see.

[seb2010]

ok so this is what i am thinking about adding

nino
governers proxy
witchling stalkers
convict gunslinger
hans(maybe)

and quite possible some of the new guild stuff when it comes out

[Jonas Albrecht]

I am gonna test a new combo tomorrow where I use Grandma O to give the Executioner Family(using Shotgun Wedding) and then have him hang out with Her, Perdita and the enslaved Neph. That way I can in theory activate Companion on all 4, Obey him three times(with a good draw) and then have him activate. Should be a fun to see.

Very interesting. Let me know how that turns out.

[seb2010]

Very interesting. Let me know how that turns out.

ok will do and by very interesting you dont mean very bad do you?

[Jonas Albrecht]

ok will do and by very interesting you dont mean very bad do you?

I think you might be confused, I was talking to nilus.

But, feel free to keep me updated with what you're doing as well!

[Poko]

He's ok for casual games and tourneys where you can change your list. I am absolutely terrified of Papa, as a regular opponent of Guild. Perdita, enslaved nephilim, papa, and you have an unstoppable nuclear missile. Activate nephilim, use simultaneous to activate Perdita, or the other way, as you see fit. Cast obey on Papa, Charge him to enemy. Activate Perdy(nephilim-the second obey model anyway), move a bit to catch up with papa, activate companion-family if you haven't before, cast obey, he charges again. Then activate Papa, and cast Take Ya twice. With good timing he should be directly inside of the enemy army if you launch him at turn 2 or 3.

[Jonas Albrecht]

I am absolutely terrified of Papa, as a regular opponent of Guild. Perdita, enslaved nephilim, papa, and you have an unstoppable nuclear missile. Activate nephilim, use simultaneous to activate Perdita, or the other way, as you see fit. Cast obey on Papa, Charge him to enemy. Activate Perdy(nephilim-the second obey model anyway), move a bit to catch up with papa, activate companion-family if you haven't before, cast obey, he charges again. Then activate Papa, and cast Take Ya twice. With good timing he should be directly inside of the enemy army if you launch him at turn 2 or 3.

You can also hold off on using Take Ya With Me. An unexploded bomb dead center of your opponents makes them very nervous.

[seb2010]

I think you might be confused, I was talking to nilus.

But, feel free to keep me updated with what you're doing as well!

yeah i thought you were talking to me sorry for the confusion

[Jonas Albrecht]

yeah i thought you were talking to me sorry for the confusion

No worries!

[Poko]

You can also hold off on using Take Ya With Me. An unexploded bomb dead center of your opponents makes them very nervous.Yes, but if he loses so much as 1 wound, he will only explode once if I recall, rather than twice. 12 Dm in 6" is a massive gap in the enemy army if he fields a swarm-like list, and even against big models he has the chance to take them down if they don't have decent armor or if they fail one of the defense flips.