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ProdigalPunk
08-05-2010, 05:54 PM
Any Rezzers with the inside scoop have any critiques of the second book? Any good new models for Nico to summon? Favorite new model? Cool things to look out for? Where is the dirt?

Jadin
08-05-2010, 05:55 PM
and Molly info plz!

dakrulz55
08-05-2010, 06:35 PM
oh the suspense for her rules is killing me!!

shekbo
08-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Ahem.

I'm not clear as to whether I'm still in NDA.

So I'll be as oblique as possible.

Seamus' lady friend MAY or may not be FREAKING AWESOME. There COULD be a big, giant summonable beasty. Everyone COULD get new toys. The new resser section MIGHT be a bit spirit heavy, however, so there MIGHT only be a handful of new undead.

it COULD be an awesome handful.

that said, the spirits MIGHT be really cool.

Lucidicide
08-06-2010, 09:31 AM
Ahem.

I'm not clear as to whether I'm still in NDA.

So I'll be as oblique as possible.

Seamus' lady friend MAY or may not be FREAKING AWESOME. There COULD be a big, giant summonable beasty. Everyone COULD get new toys. The new resser section MIGHT be a bit spirit heavy, however, so there MIGHT only be a handful of new undead.

it COULD be an awesome handful.

that said, the spirits MIGHT be really cool.

Ha. And some of those spirits might still be useful even if you're not Kirai.

Jadin
08-06-2010, 09:50 AM
Thanks for those teasers shekbo. As a fellow Vermonter, I sent you an email about our Central Vermont Miniature Wargaming Group.

jmp_mydog
08-06-2010, 10:32 AM
Don't forget those autopsies.

Jadin
08-06-2010, 10:54 AM
Something for McMourning then?

I have a question: Do all the spirits incoming have a Oriental theme to them or just the ones we have already seen only have the Oriental spirit theme?

jmp_mydog
08-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Something for McMourning then?

I have a question: Do all the spirits incoming have a Oriental theme to them or just the ones we have already seen only have the Oriental spirit theme?

Three Kingdoms feel, is very spiritual.

Aberration
08-06-2010, 11:47 AM
I'm all sorts of excited about this, especially since there MAY be a big summonable beast-mode zombie and the multitude of spirits I'm buying can be applicable outside of Kirai.

Need Book 2 arrrgghhhhhhh

DangerousBeans
08-07-2010, 12:05 PM
I won't lie, I was a bit disappointed with the relative lack of "traditional" undead (ie: zombies and such) but the new stuff adds a whole new edge to the Ressers (as does the new stuff for most factions - see Collete Du Bois teaser for differences with current Arcanists) but after a few games I was really happy. The new toys rock. That's not to say there aren't some new "traditional" undead, McMourning's been busy......... :D

shekbo
08-07-2010, 09:18 PM
I'd say the good doctor is gaining quite a lot....

There's one real non Asian themed spirit, an anti-ranged hunter killer who also works with Dreamer. Perditas worst nightmare.

Hatchethead
08-07-2010, 09:49 PM
Oh man. So excited. My Book 2 is en route alongside the Karai box, a blister of Gaki and a puppet deck. Not to mention a Miss Pack. Quick, quick. Hooray for USPS airmail!

pigi314159
08-08-2010, 07:23 AM
If there's one thing that rezzers got in book w it's cheap expendable ranged units. Most of the models I see are aimed towards McMourning to give him a wee bit more versatility than just the rocket dogs.

But as stated above, most of what we get is aimed at our newest lovely lady...and my my my does it make me tingle a wee bit. Swarms of spirits everywhere and she's nearly invincible. And there is absolutely no reason at all you should not field her with her totem.

I think my favorite new model out of the whole thing is datsue-ba. She's got battlefield versatility that helps other troops move around, she's got healing capability, and if you're lucky with flips she's a summoner too. Yes please!

dakrulz55
08-08-2010, 08:16 AM
any news about molly? i hear she's the only henchman to have her own totem

pigi314159
08-08-2010, 08:26 AM
You hear correctly!

Still digesting her stats a wee bit...but not exactly sure how to describe her.

She is definitely a caster, as she lacks a melee attack, and many of her spells are utility based, I guess....hard to say. In a Seamus crew...oh my...you will have belles rocketing around the table.

Jadin
08-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by redstripe http://www.wyrd-games.net/forum/fusion/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?p=153343#post153343)
A few requests about Molly, and some of that information is:

She grants access to the Reconstructed Dead Special Forces. She has Slow to Die and Hard to Wound and she's also Pitiful (she's a very sick girl.)

Her actions are: Impossible Knowledge, The Gorgoneion, Uncontrolled Crying, and Reveal Phillip.

Her Spells are: Whispered Secret, Terrible Secret, The Philosophy of Uncertainty, and The Shocking Truth.

She has a talent that allows her to take a particular totem with her, as if she were a Master. It is called "The Necrotic Machine" and it is an artifact of Old Malifaux that seems to identify her as an agent of The Gorgon and follows her because of that connection.

Her picture in the book shows her holding Phillip's Head against her chest. She has a few abilities that modify fate flips, cause terror, and a spell that kills the target outright.
She spits up blood when you hit her too...


not my spoilers, but from another thread in the main Malifaux Matters section.

Svenn
08-09-2010, 06:13 PM
I want Molly! Very excited now. :) I saw mentions before but never any details. This all sounds awesome!

Wodschow
08-09-2010, 06:56 PM
MOLLY!!! :D

Slow to Die on soulstone users is just so mean... I died, now I healed. Yay!

She sounds interesting.. The Ressurectionist 'master' I currently consider myself most likely to buy. Depending on her model of course, but I expect to be pleasently surprised as I've been so many times before :)

shekbo
08-09-2010, 07:34 PM
Warning: she cannot, with the models available, be fielded as a master. She can only use superior undead (at least the final beta version, maybe they changed it) and there's only one superior undead model in the new book. He's rare 1, too.

However, she makes a great henchman for Seamus!

Wodschow
08-09-2010, 07:50 PM
Eww.. Although I guess it makes more sense that way.. Guess I won't be getting her anytime soon then.. Other Book2 things are more interesting x_x and Douglas' definetly cooler than Seamus (my opinion anyway..), maybe Kirai Ankoku is aswell - haven't decided.. Needs to read fluff on that one first. XD

gregdorf
08-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Something for McMourning then?


Well he is now running with some guild guards, they are a surprise.

It has been also hinted Marcus also had his favorite 3 headed kitty cat taken into the doctor to get a check up, the cat is all better now.



Both of these troops have a trait added to them that allows them to be summoned by McMourning. The Guild guys are little better then the dogs but not by much they have easy to wound 1 and do not drop corpse counters nor can they be used as a source for body parts. They do have a range gun that is decent but they are fairly light on the triggers and spells. The big cat has been made into an undead chimera, it looks very cool and is now on my most wanted list of models to come out. It is a nasty piece of work that can be part of molly's special forces unit It costs a metric ton of body parts to put into play and is among the most high priced models in the game. It is a beast, which means that Marcus can still take it, but it makes other beasts upset.


I was not real keen on the Kirai theme at first, part of me says that the asian theme has been done to death.... but after reading her troops and fluff she is now my number two Resser, the good doctor will always be #1.

Jadin
08-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Warning: she cannot, with the models available, be fielded as a master. She can only use superior undead (at least the final beta version, maybe they changed it) and there's only one superior undead model in the new book. He's rare 1, too.

However, she makes a great henchman for Seamus!
Sweet, she will be nice and snug in my Seamus list.

"Molly, though, she really listens to me. You understand."

osoi
08-09-2010, 11:15 PM
Great news for the good Doctor and the Hatter, I cant wait for my book to arrive

shekbo
08-09-2010, 11:47 PM
They're a little better than dogs?

Do dogs have 12" range? A summonable ranged attack! Who cares if they get ripped up? And they're great for anti guild ops. Mistaken identity for the win.

Also, who says it's all kitty? Ol' piecey is a pure bred mutt, in a literal sense.

Also, giant fireballs is totally worth 7 bp's.

(or three corpses in Nick's case!)

also, FYI, Molly works for all ressers except possibly kirai. She's fairly self sufficient. So if you're a doc fan, she's still viable. She just works best with Seamus because she's a morale killer and Seamus compliments that. She's especially nasty with a hanged buddy.

Jadin
08-10-2010, 08:01 AM
Morale unfortunately is not the best assault tactic. Hey look I'm facing Constructs and or Undead, why do I have all this morale stuff?

Aberration
08-10-2010, 09:13 AM
They're a little better than dogs?

Do dogs have 12" range? A summonable ranged attack! Who cares if they get ripped up? And they're great for anti guild ops. Mistaken identity for the win.

Also, who says it's all kitty? Ol' piecey is a pure bred mutt, in a literal sense.

Also, giant fireballs is totally worth 7 bp's.

(or three corpses in Nick's case!)

also, FYI, Molly works for all ressers except possibly kirai. She's fairly self sufficient. So if you're a doc fan, she's still viable. She just works best with Seamus because she's a morale killer and Seamus compliments that. She's especially nasty with a hanged buddy.


Do want :| looks like I'll have to take my cerberus and do some savage conversions on it for now.

gregdorf
08-10-2010, 09:36 AM
They're a little better than dogs?

They are useful, and slightly better then the dogs. They are a little too focused against guild for me to say they are that much better then the dogs. The big plus for them is they should be good bait models for the nurses to inject.


Also, who says it's all kitty? Ol' piecey is a pure bred mutt, in a literal sense.

I did say it was an undead chimera


also, FYI, Molly works for all ressers except possibly kirai. She's fairly self sufficient. So if you're a doc fan, she's still viable. She just works best with Seamus because she's a morale killer and Seamus compliments that. She's especially nasty with a hanged buddy.

The only Resser that I see not taking her very often is Nico, Molly's special where she cannot be effected by stuff that specifically targets undead would work against Nico.

pigi314159
08-10-2010, 09:59 AM
While the guild autopsy do have their uses, I'm having a hard time deciding between dogs and autopsies. The lack of generating corpse counters is a huge turn off for me, however the range is rather nice. I think what I'm going to end up going is fielding a pack of dogs, and as the game progresses turning them into guild autopsies.

Hatchethead
08-10-2010, 01:33 PM
also, FYI, Molly works for all ressers except possibly kirai. She's fairly self sufficient. So if you're a doc fan, she's still viable. She just works best with Seamus because she's a morale killer and Seamus compliments that. She's especially nasty with a hanged buddy.
Good to know. I'm not a Seamus fan at all, but I really like the sound of Molly. I'm glad she doesn't lean on the Hatter. Otherwise I'd be forced to avoid her.

Guild Guard
08-10-2010, 03:52 PM
I can't wait for my Rising Powers Book to arrive. All kinds of rezzer goodness!

Atticus
08-10-2010, 05:43 PM
While the guild autopsy do have their uses, I'm having a hard time deciding between dogs and autopsies. The lack of generating corpse counters is a huge turn off for me, however the range is rather nice. I think what I'm going to end up going is fielding a pack of dogs, and as the game progresses turning them into guild autopsies.

While that seems to make sense, I've always felt that I need ranged attacks early game while the enemy closes and then melee kicks in and range suffers due to figures being tied up. However, the change to firing into combat may help this some.