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DrEvilmonki
10-24-2006, 04:07 PM
Last year I said I would enter multiple catergories in GD, put in the effort and really try and push myself. Instead 3 weeks before the entry cutoff I got a lotr Troll and painted that.

This year I want to enter multiple catergories, put the effort in and really try to push myself! :bird:

So I figure better get started. As long as no one minds I am going to use WYRD as a sort of log book, putting up WIP shots and I hope the people here will help me by pointing out how crap my stuff is and suggesting I give up the hobby altogeather! Really critique would be really helpful.

What I have planned is...

40K unit - Orc Kommandos
40K single - SM Chaplain
40K large - Eldar Wraithlord (and here I want to try my conversion work extensively - so could be a complete balls up)
Fantasy single - Dryad special character.

If I have time after those I may try a duel as I have an image in mind.

Ok enough wordy stuff. I have started the Sargent for my Kommandos. I can see a couple of areas I need to tidy (the teeth and eyes). His bottom lip will be getting some glaze treatment to give it a slight blue/purple look.
I was also thinking of putting some extra colour into the recesses in his skin - maybe some blue in the cheeks and some red around the eyes and nose?

Any suggestions?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/headfront.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/cigar.jpg

EricJ
10-24-2006, 04:22 PM
looks good so far, looking forward to watching your progress towards your goal.

Which GD? what's the date deadline for your efforts?

DrEvilmonki
10-24-2006, 04:26 PM
GD Oz. Entry is in October 2007.

EricJ
10-24-2006, 05:19 PM
why do I feel like I asked that already, lol...I can't keep everything straight

So you're starting a year ahead of time, I think you should be able to get some real nice pieces in.

I was thinking about a converted wraithlord as well actually, it's an intreaging piece

Nathan Caroland
10-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Very cool, looking forward to seeing what you come up with and I'm sure you'll get some critique, especially if you ask for the no holds barred bit as there are a few GD freaks around here and a few trophy winners as well if I recall correctly.

Loving the Kommando so far and frankly its above my level of painting already even without the glazes, etc. so I'm suitably impressed. I don't know for sure how the judges or even public go for Orks, but I always get a tickle out of them as there is just something so interesting and compelling about them. Maybe do something interesting with them along the lines of what ... Victoria ... ermm .. damnit what is her last name .. I know it ...

Anyhoo, on CMON you'll find a GD entry of an Ork Mob that was just hillarious as they were duking it out and fighting with the boss slapping his head in aggrivation. I'm sure Duende would remember the thing right off the bat as she seems to know the whole site over there.

Not big on the Eldar anything to be honest, but that's just a personal preference as Eric himself is all hot and bothered about that thing as well which is likely a good point.

Me, I'm always itching to see a Sister Repentia done rather well myself or something with a big ol' creature in it that allows for a lot of canvas work on it in the way of scales or the like.

Post them, I'll critique the buggers. :D

EricJ
10-24-2006, 11:10 PM
The problem with sisters is basically that it's the weakest selling army, so doesn't, in their eyes, deserve White Dwarf space unless it's something special...and thus does not win very much. Space marines have a big advantage, as well as anything that's relatively new.

Of course this varries by the judges that happen to be on hand that day, but in general I think this holds basically true. Thus Eldar should have a bit of an edge.

Jabberwocky
10-24-2006, 11:13 PM
Looks great so far! I'll be happy to post my (less than) 2 cents along the way.
The face is very well contrasted at this point. The close ups allow for the suggestion to smooth some of the transitions (particularly of the highlights), but at a regular distance, they may be non existant. The bluish tinge I think will look good on the lips.

Victoria Lamb is who you are thinking of, Nathan--one of Australia's best, IMHO.

green stuff
10-25-2006, 01:17 AM
Loving the Kommando so far and frankly its above my level of painting already even without the glazes, etc. so I'm suitably impressed. I don't know for sure how the judges or even public go for Orks, but I always get a tickle out of them as there is just something so interesting and compelling about them. Maybe do something interesting with them along the lines of what ... Victoria ... ermm .. damnit what is her last name .. I know it ...
Victoria Lamb (sorry Jabberwocky, I missed you post :P) :
http://www.coolminiornot.com/11028

The ork head looks good but the ash bit might need more grey (then black). Also, you might want to add extra subtle colors to his face for nuances. For example pink or purple around his nose, cheeks, or lips.

Just an off question : when was the last time a space marine won the slayer sword ;)? Paint what pleases you. If technicaly it's flawless, and it tells a story, people will remember it no matter what the mini, and that's the difference that must be made to get the judges attention when they browse hundreds of minis all day long ... well that's my opinion on GD judging ;).

Nathan Caroland
10-25-2006, 01:22 AM
Yup, thats the one, thanks fellas. Anyhow, what Cedric said, I think if you are going to do a squad of something or another, I think making it memorable is just as important as how well it is painted.

DrEvilmonki
10-25-2006, 06:31 AM
We are somewhat restricted in what we are allowed to do in GD OZ. No scenic bases at all for squads so it makes it hard to have them interacting with each other.
I am converting the sargent at the very least. I haven't given much thought to the rest as of yet, some will be convertible but they are all one piece metal figures so it would be hard to modify them to much without major work.

I have chopped off the sargent regular claw hand and grafted on a SM dreadnaught choppy claw thing. I have greenstuffed the various pipes so they will look like they go into his flesh (and will paint the joins all red and enflamed).

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/body1.jpg

Not much actual painting time these evening but I did go back and smooth out his teeth, cheek and top lip, the blueish look to his bottom lip, the red around his nose and eyes (the nose needs more work I think) and ears (can't see the inside of the ears from the angel below), did the lens on his googles and base coated the various piercings and the metal on the googles. I will probably try my hand at full scale NMM on this unit so I expect I wont be finished any time soon! Oh plus I added a bit of grey on the end of his cigar (thanks greenstuff I was wondering about that)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/headfront2.jpg

green stuff
10-25-2006, 07:10 AM
No prob DrEvilmonki ;). I really like how the face is turning out. If the rest of the mini is of this quality, it should be a real sight ;).

Jabberwocky
10-25-2006, 09:51 AM
NICE. The lens are spot on, and the lips and nose were just the right touch.

jester of death
10-29-2006, 05:13 PM
hey

looking great man, funny thing is, im working on that same model. i havent converted mine though, but i did leave the backpack off. i am also doing him in nmm. if i can find a good light sorce at work ill take some pics along with all th others i have to take pics of.


jod

DrEvilmonki
11-04-2006, 03:46 AM
Haven't had to much painting time recently, but I have managed to finish off the head, the arms (skin that is - and mostly as I want to add some extra colour definition) and the bioinc hand (again mostly as there are some finishing touches to be added).

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/headand-arm.jpg

Sculpta the squig
11-04-2006, 05:07 PM
That looks Awsome especially the NMM and cigar.

Greets Squig

callumrice
11-05-2006, 12:55 PM
Its smart mr monkey, very smart. I like looking at other peoples techniques and the way in which they paint particular models, you seem to paint grime, rust, dirt etc exceptionally well and I envy that style! Very well done.

callumrice
11-05-2006, 12:56 PM
And you got my 100th post, thanks for touching me mr monkey!!

r2-j1
11-05-2006, 02:37 PM
This really is looking fantastic so far. I'm afraid most of my minis wouldn't hold up to such high detail shots. Your attention to detail is stunning, and the color choices thus far look great.

DrEvilmonki
11-15-2006, 05:48 AM
Ok this is a quick picture as it is late and I am sweepy. The colours a re a bit out but you should hopefully see what I have done. - T-shirt is grey belts are done, buckles are done, bullets are almost finished and a bit of gore added to the bionic hand.

I am going to glue the head on soon since I have finished off the bits that it was in the way for.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/sargent.jpg

Sculpta the squig
11-15-2006, 12:38 PM
Looking great especally the weathered brass.

Squig

DrEvilmonki
11-16-2006, 01:13 AM
I am going to be starting on the power claw soon. What I am thinking is doing it like it's been raided from either Blood angels or imerial fists (are they the yellow ones?).

Any opinions out there?

green stuff
11-16-2006, 01:16 AM
imerial fists (are they the yellow ones?)
Yes they are.

Jabberwocky
11-16-2006, 02:48 AM
Armored bits are looking very nice with the weathering!

AinuLainour
11-16-2006, 07:57 PM
Alright, this may sound fake DrEvil but it's true. There was a huge wind/rain storm and I lost internet access for one and a half-days, and I came on as soon as I could!

As for the mini..

Looking like a winner! The yellow goggles, the rusted/oxidized/nmm all look simply amazing; you have really improved, even since your cave troll!

My only suggestion would be to give the skin more definition.

Cheers,

Ainu

DrEvilmonki
11-17-2006, 04:18 AM
Alright, this may sound fake DrEvil but it's true. There was a huge wind/rain storm and I lost internet access for one and a half-days, and I came on as soon as I could!

As for the mini..

Looking like a winner! The yellow goggles, the rusted/oxidized/nmm all look simply amazing; you have really improved, even since your cave troll!

My only suggestion would be to give the skin more definition.

Cheers,

Ainu

Hey I managed to get a newbie to sign up! :wavey:

Thanks for commenting. I have been giving some thought to the skin ever since seeing Automaton's GD entry. Not sure exactly what I am going to do but will keep you posted.

Currently working on the power claw and yellow it be!

Nathan Caroland
11-17-2006, 04:34 AM
Welcome to the Wyrd. Now back to watching the miniature unfold ...

matty1001
11-17-2006, 03:40 PM
Hehe cool, D.E.M you love your green oxidation technique! How do you do it? Is there a special way, or do you just paint greeny blue lines on?

DrEvilmonki
11-17-2006, 04:20 PM
I use water soluble crayon and ink for most of my oxidation effects. You can similar effects with very thin washes of paint but I like the waxy finish from the crayons plus you can move it about a bit more than paint or ink alone I find.

matty1001
11-17-2006, 04:22 PM
So do you use the dust from the crayons? Or just draw it on?

Ritual
11-17-2006, 04:43 PM
Welcome to the Wyrd. Now back to watching the miniature unfold ...
There has not been much unfolding lately!! :hmmmm:

AinuLainour
12-30-2006, 01:42 AM
Not to live up to my title, but where's the progress?

DrEvilmonki
10-29-2007, 07:03 AM
ok so obviously got pretty side tracked by life this year and this guy sat on my shelf untouched. SO this will be the start of my 2008 campaign.

I am going to alternate between this guy and my children in need project.

Since I started up again I tweaked the face a bit brighter to hopefully draw it into focus a bit more. I have done the pants trying to get a worn leather feel.

Just got to finish his backpack.

Sorry picture quality ain't the best (no light set up at the moment.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/Body-finished1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/body-finished2.jpg

Ritual
10-29-2007, 07:12 AM
Where are you storing your images?

DrEvilmonki
10-29-2007, 07:19 AM
Where are you storing your images?

Not to worry I got it sorted. Photobucket changed the order of file types on me so I was picking the wrong tag. Pictures should be there now.

Ritual
10-29-2007, 07:30 AM
Looking good! There's plenty of good stuff here that I really like, the strong expressive face for instance. The photos are, as you say, not the best and I would like to see better photos before giving you advice as I really can't say what is due to the washed out photos and what is due to the paintjob. But, I really like where this is going in general!

DrEvilmonki
10-29-2007, 07:39 AM
I guess I better get my lighting set up..... um well setup I guess. Any pointers I can get from yourself could only be a good thing.

DrEvilmonki
12-18-2007, 04:31 PM
ok just about there. (I noticed some damage on the pipe coming out of his left arm. (Note to self - put the figures on weighted bases when painting!).

Haven't done the base yet obviously. Hope these pictures are a bit better.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/Kommando-sargent-frontview4.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/Kommando-sargent-back400.jpg

demonherald
12-18-2007, 06:37 PM
I really like the overall feel of this guy..here's a couple of things hitting me at first inspection going from the photos so you could be a better judge in the flesh....
The red on the dynamite sticks looks a little flat..Maye add a touch of elf flesh to the highlight and do some very very thin glazes with Dark Angels green to the lower shadowed surfaces ......
The white spot highlights particularly on the grots knuckles stand out a little too muc and distract from the look a bit... maybe blend them in a little more with some of the base skin colour and the white...minor issue that might not be there in the flesh but in the bottom pic my eye keeps getting drawn to the knuckles...
The goggles face power claw and the NMM are all awesome..he NMM weathering is also fantastic bravo sir...
The rucksack looks a little flat maybe deepening the shadows with thinned glazes of Brown and purple or green ill help there ..Just to provide a it more interest and add a bit of depth to te shadows.
Lastly the pars where the flesh joins the mechanics.. nicely done but looks a little fresh.. maybe add some purple mixed with the lightest geen and feather it around the edges of the red toward the orks skin to add a litte bruising types effect will help there...

Oveall this is a lovely looking Orky and oe of those models I keep promising myself I wil paint one day..
great job.

demonherald
12-18-2007, 06:40 PM
Oh I think also basing it at this stage may well help balance out some of the areas it's one of those things That I like to do and also eans I get the right colours for the base.....

DrEvilmonki
12-18-2007, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the comments, one of the reasons I hadn't based him was just in case I had some input like that. The ruck sack especially needs tweaking now that you mention it and I agree with the wounds. Actually I think I agree with everything you wrote there.

Mainly my issue was I started this guy a LONG time ago I started rushing a bit as I got closer to finishing him. Oh well only four more to go!

demonherald
12-18-2007, 07:29 PM
I know that feeling only too well...I'm just finishing off some long standing on thesidelines models..It's amazing how subtle differences in your painting styles develop to completely hange how yu started a job...I think th stage yor at now is a stage where a lot of peple count as done..I do it myself a lotwhen ebaying.. It's taking a sto and going back and tweaking areas now thatmakes the difference betwen good and great... I look forward toseeing how the rest go...

DrEvilmonki
12-19-2007, 05:35 AM
Thanks Demon alterations made. The base I had made for him really didn't suit so I will be constructing tomorrow and hopefully finished pics up as well.

Then I finish off my CiN figure.

DrEvilmonki
12-27-2007, 03:00 PM
Ok I am calling this guy done. Their are still bits I am not happy with but overall I think this is a step up for me (don't know if you agree but I am satisfied with the result).

I am actually looking forward to painting the rest of the squad now. I will need to take a new front on pic before I put it into my gallery I think.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/front600.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/Back-300.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/right300.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/left300.jpg

demonherald
12-27-2007, 03:10 PM
other than the fact the hoto is a little bright on my screen to see some parts clearly.. This guy looks great and I look forward toseeing the others of the squad....ice one

MuK
12-28-2007, 04:52 AM
Very nice idea with Power Claw but blood on it should be more "wet' and dark. Nice battle damages, try use blood red in making rust. Very good mini but photos should be better :) Good job.

DrEvilmonki
12-29-2007, 02:16 PM
I didn't tone down the blood on the claw, may still go back and do that before it goes into competition. But here is the final result as it stands.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/DrEvilmonki/webversion.jpg

And voting link for those inclined that way.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/178029

Nathan Caroland
12-29-2007, 03:50 PM
Lovely work amigo! Have you thought about maybe taking it that extra step and doing some resin water on the base sort of like the Ice Golem Rob did for us? Might give it that extra appeal.

DrEvilmonki
12-29-2007, 04:00 PM
I am thinking of doing a display base for the unit once they are all done (so in about 5 years or so!). I don't think I will look at changing anything else until then.

R kid
12-29-2007, 11:28 PM
Nice work cant wait to see the rest of the squad.....im a bit unsure about the sludge coming out the pipe tho.